HR 676 - US Nat'l Health Insurance Act

[ParanoiA]

I think the government is being used by many who have the financial and political power to do so, and in some cases government is being abused. I don't see the government as a mega-corp entity, but more as a tool that can be used by anyone. The tool can be useful or it can be abused by those who would use it against many to help a few. Again, I would like to know if other countries with national healthcare view it as thwarting the system and creating a mega-corp.

 

Yes, I too would like to know if other countries who have government coerced national healthcare insurance have managed to resist the conditioning and see it as a mega-corp.

 

I think if people are going to get off their asses in this country to motivate their representatives to change this flawed system, we'd better do it right the first time. Halfway measures at this juncture will insure that we're stuck halfway for a long time. The bulk of Americans don't challenge the system with any regularity.

 

Glad we agree on the first part. But, National healthcare insurance is not "halfway" to anywhere except socialism. I'm just as disturbed about government selling insurance (paid by coercing the citizenry) as I am corporations selling police services.

 

One thing you've pointed out though that I can't get around is the money being used to influence government. I'm always going on about how we seem to prefer using government (legislation) for social engineering, behavior and etc, sparing them the "inconvenient trouble" of persuading the masses in free society. And as you've correctly pointed out, mega-corps do that on an exponential level.

 

Not that I mean to change the thread direction, but how do we stay philosophically consistent to clear principles of freedom to petition the government, pressure government officials, and yet stop the insane lobbying and obvious big money influence?

 

Of course, Hamilton might add that every country is run by a small, elite group, regardless of the design. So, is it even possible?

[Phi for All]

how do we stay philosophically consistent to clear principles of freedom to petition the government, pressure government officials, and yet stop the insane lobbying and obvious big money influence?

Quick answer, we start motivating everybody who would be affected by national healthcare to get involved in their government and become a bigger voice. Votes will beat $ with the politicians. You can't stay in office on money alone when the voters are aware.