YT2095 Posted March 20, 2004 Posted March 20, 2004 and a few others popularised in Sci-Fi. I`m interested to know how the "Stun" setting could be possible? granted, Stunning by electricity or EM waves of a frequency that directly influence the brain is indeed possible now. but does anyone know if it`s possible to actualy transmit that via a "light" beam without being so intense as to burn a hole through the subject? light flashes can induce epileptic attacks as well, so is a Star Trek type of "Stun" setting possible?
Sayonara Posted March 20, 2004 Posted March 20, 2004 PhasER means "Phased Energy Rectification", if that's any help
YT2095 Posted March 20, 2004 Author Posted March 20, 2004 well yeah ok thnx but I was more seeking the mechanics behind the possibility of the idea, not that your deffinition isn`t welcome, it`s just not really helpfull. Unless you understand the workings of this principal, to me a phased energy rectifier would be a simple Diode (hardly lethal or stunning, LOL). anyone else have a clue? all the ideas I seem to have would either take ages, only work on some people, effect the user of the weapon just as much, or plain old burn them very badly! all reasonable input welcome
Sayonara Posted March 20, 2004 Posted March 20, 2004 The principle phasers use to damage a target is termed the rapid nadion effect, but a good explanation of how that effect actually works is difficult to find.
YT2095 Posted March 20, 2004 Author Posted March 20, 2004 Nadion??? never heard of it!? [edit] come to think of it, I`ve never heard of a phaser outside of star trek with regards to a weapon. Laser yes Maser Yes phaser erm,,, nope? oh yeah, and Taser (great for lighting Gas BBQ`s)
Sayonara Posted March 20, 2004 Posted March 20, 2004 I think they made it up. Iirc it's some kind of subatomic entity.
YT2095 Posted March 20, 2004 Author Posted March 20, 2004 probably, it doesn`t ring any bells with me, that`s for sure lasers and masers do leave an IONISED path though, and at sufficient energies that path can be quite conductive! but unless the weapon can generate several million volts (not impossible) AND the weapon has an Earth strap (probably on the users shoe sole) then it either A. wont work or B. they both get 50% each of the voltage, so it`s left down to light as far as I can figure, maybe a certain frequency that induces epilepsy in the non-suceptible? ya see the problem occurs when I watch stuff like that on TV and say "that`s a load of crap" and usualy end up explaining WHY it`s a load of crap and pi$$ing of the others that are watching it too, so I`m trying to give them a fighting chance here
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted March 20, 2004 Posted March 20, 2004 One "beam" now being tested is a "pain beam." Mounted on a Humvee, you point it at the target and it causes INTENSE pain without actually damaging the target. Make it smaller and more powerful, and ow.
Hades Posted March 21, 2004 Posted March 21, 2004 sure would be cool to see a weapon capable of maintaining antimatter composition without combustion that could be aimed at a specific target and not annihilate until that very target has been reached. Some buildings can withstand wind, some can withstand fire, some can withstand electricity, some can withstand the force of an atomic explosion... but no building could withstand 'absolute' destruction. Hypothetically, there would be nothing the weapon couldnt destroy.
Crash Posted March 21, 2004 Posted March 21, 2004 ?? I see your idea as very ossible YT, altough i would sort of see an electric pulse fired which stuns the victim that way as opposed to light, sorta like a mild enough lightning blast
Lance Posted March 21, 2004 Posted March 21, 2004 The problem is directing the "lightning blast" and creating enough voltage to jump that far. Why would the lighting jump at the bad guy at not at yourself?
Sayonara Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 YT2095 said in post # :lasers and masers do leave an IONISED path though, and at sufficient energies that path can be quite conductive! but unless the weapon can generate several million volts (not impossible) AND the weapon has an Earth strap (probably on the users shoe sole) then it either A. wont work or B. they both get 50% each of the voltage, so it`s left down to light as far as I can figure, maybe a certain frequency that induces epilepsy in the non-suceptible? As far as phasers and disruptors go, they don't actually deliver that much power. They are designed to induce an effect that's kind of a chain reaction.
Crash Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 Originally posted by Lance The problem is directing the "lightning blast" and creating enough voltage to jump that far. Why would the lighting jump at the bad guy at not at yourself? yea, i guess. just a thought
alt_f13 Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 YT2095 said in post # : ya see the problem occurs when I watch stuff like that on TV and say "that`s a load of crap" and usualy end up explaining WHY it`s a load of crap and pi$$ing of the others that are watching it too, so I`m trying to give them a fighting chance here Better stop watching Voyager...oh, and don't even turn on TOS.
Gracchus Posted March 25, 2004 Posted March 25, 2004 Focused sound of the right frequency might have that effect.
YT2095 Posted March 25, 2004 Author Posted March 25, 2004 true, a frequency of 7hz is known to cause intense nausea and at sufficient power even internal injuries
Dave Posted March 25, 2004 Posted March 25, 2004 A lot of people have died from ultra low frequency research. The Germans used it as a kind of riot control I think.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted March 25, 2004 Posted March 25, 2004 No. They created a "sound gun," and estimated it would kill at 250 yards after 10 seconds, but they never tested it on humans. I think.
floersh Posted July 8, 2007 Posted July 8, 2007 and a few others popularised in Sci-Fi.I`m interested to know how the "Stun" setting could be possible? granted, Stunning by electricity or EM waves of a frequency that directly influence the brain is indeed possible now. but does anyone know if it`s possible to actualy transmit that via a "light" beam without being so intense as to burn a hole through the subject? light flashes can induce epileptic attacks as well, so is a Star Trek type of "Stun" setting possible? Yes.. Sort of anyway.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolaser electrolaser is a type of directed-energy weapon. It uses lasers to form an electrically conductive Laser-Induced Plasma Channel (LIPC). A fraction of a second later, a powerful electric current is sent down this plasma channel and delivered to the target, thus functioning overall as a large-scale, high energy, long-distance version of the Taser electroshock gun.
Glider Posted July 8, 2007 Posted July 8, 2007 Check out, or for a less biased report . Not a 'stun' setting, but it looks really effective.
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