pioneer Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 This is a theory that came to be a few weeks ago. If we take the reciprocal of the SR equations, times the mass, distance and time, then instead of getting mass, distance and time increase we get mass, distance and time decrease using any given velocity. Where this could come in handy is if we were in a moving reference and had a relative velocity bead on a slower reference. It would tell us the MDT parameters of the slower reference based on the conservation of energy. For example, we have two rockets launched from earth. One has more fuel and is able to reach double its mass due to SR. The other has less fuel and only reaches 1.5 times its stationary mass. The energy input defines the final velocity and all the real SR affects since the real affects are based on the energy in the system. From the faster rocket, if we know our mass is 2M and we know the relative velocity of the slower rocket, reciprocal SR would allow us to calculate 1.5M. It would also tell use the space-time environment of the slower reference, regardless of any relative illusions. Where this line of reasoning came from, was the paradox; if we assume our earth is at zero reference, and the universe is expanding uniformly in all directions, where is space-time expanding too, if we are already at zero reference? It is either going into negative reference, or the earth is not at zero reference in terms of the conservation of energy. If we use reciprocal SR, assuming the earth is at zero reference, then negative reference would show distance expanding, time speeding up and mass lowering. Or what appears to be an expansion is a distance magnification of zero reference, with things happening faster resulting in high mass to energy relative to our reference.
Riogho Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 Ooo... Can we see some sources, as to read further?
swansont Posted April 20, 2008 Posted April 20, 2008 In your own frame, you always get the rest mass. Your mass doesn't change, anyway, for reasons discussed in other recent threads.
pioneer Posted April 20, 2008 Author Posted April 20, 2008 I often wondered about the mass within a relativistic reference, which got there by inputting energy, starting from a stationary reference. The analogy that comes to mind is heating a block of metal. The final mass contains the thermal energy but it does not change the number of tangible particles. If we let it cool to steady state, only the thermal mass is loss with the original number of particles still conserved. Does relativistic mass amount to something loosely analogous? We still conserve the same number of tangible particles but we add virtual or relativistic mass onto these. If we take away the relativistic energy then the original number of particles is conserved with no new long lived particles at steady state that were created because of the virtual mass. Each reference will have a particular virtual mass affect added to the tangible mass, based on the energy input, with the number of tangible particles conserved. One would have to somehow monitor the virtual mass affect to know their reference, maybe based on a type of particular virtual particle probability function. On the rocket since most of tangible mass is distributed within the hull of the rocket, giving us a void space inside so we can move about, would the total virtual mass affect spread out throughout the rocket to make the air twinkle? This could still obey the laws of physics but would require using some of the more complicated laws of physics to quantify. When we shed the energy, these affects will become less and less common allowing up to calibrate reference on an energy scale. The reciprocal SR could come in handy if only one of two moving references had the equipment to monitor. It only need to know the relative velocity of the slower reference and can also quantify the virtual affects on the slower rocket so it does not create odd results with other experiments they may be doing. This brings up another consideration. SR and GR both create space-time affects but only SR creates additional relativistic mass. This is because with SR we add energy potential to get there. With GR we are taking away energy potential based on lower the gravitational potential. In the case of GR, does the space-time reference still imply virtual, with it now being bled from the tangible mass? The heat generated by the work makes it possible to allow the nucleons to come out to help with fusion.
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now