person Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 i was wondering if there was a way to seporate sodium chlorate i made from the leftover salt by the big melting point difference in the two substances:rolleyes: concidering that; 1) would the chlorate decompose 2) how would i filter the solid out 3) is there a way to stop the chlorate from decomposing Any idea ?????
YT2095 Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 heating is Not the answer, you`r better off with fractional crystalisation(s), and then follow it up with silver or lead nitrate to PPT out the Chloride.
person Posted May 1, 2008 Author Posted May 1, 2008 is there a big enough differance in solubility to use "fractional crystalisation" ? and secondly i dont realy have acess to Pb or Au -NO3
YT2095 Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 plenty big enough. solubility: g/100ml water @ 20c NaCl = 35.9 NaClO3 = 95.9
John Cuthber Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 Perhaps more useful to know is the variation of the solubility with temperature. At 0 C the solubilities are 37.5 and 79 g/100 ml At 100C they are 39.12 and 230 g/100 ml
YT2095 Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 Personally I`d turn it into the K salt, it`s Very easy to purify it That way
person Posted May 1, 2008 Author Posted May 1, 2008 thnx alot i have KCl now so i will just make KClO3 and filter that out!!
YT2095 Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 you`ll need to wash it a few times and put it in the fridge to get the best yield, but it`s Quite doable, and is even good for Pyro grade KClO3! so there has to be little to no sodium contamination.
person Posted May 4, 2008 Author Posted May 4, 2008 why must there be no sodium present for Pyro ?? does the sodium flood the colour with yellow!!
YT2095 Posted May 4, 2008 Posted May 4, 2008 yup, and it takes very few sodium ions to wash out the color too, it`s also very hygroscopic making it impractical for use.
person Posted May 4, 2008 Author Posted May 4, 2008 can i add Cu salts to gunpowder to make the flames Blue or lithium for red ?? can i make gunpowder with KClO3 minus the sulfur i know
StevenRS Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 I think that the luminous carbon would wash out any other color. There are many dedicated color compositions, most using a metal powder and a metal nitrate for color, like strontium nitrate and aluminum powder. Maybe you could color chlorate/sugar mix with a salt?
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