foodchain Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 In context of the origin of life to me one basic aspect is that it holds a molecular basis. This simple physical fact I think gets left out of the equation in regards to larger issues. Really to me what you have then is an organism, for what it is like the rest of the physical universe its physical! This to me then states that something had to allow for this, physically speaking. So in a reductionist sense what operates on a chemical level to describe bonding and other behavior, either call it thermodynamics, statistical mechanics, or quantum mechanics. The most base reality though is life has to exist like all other phenomena through a physical and or molecular basis. This to me presents something of a problem in regards to study of such. If by chance you look at say quantum decoherence, as used for the idea of a quantum computer. One of the goals they have to arrange is a system that will maintain basically a certain cyclic environment. If the computer could only process once and then become totally lost to decoherence it would be of no use at all, so as progress is made in that field producing a subsystem of the environment that can remain stable or many rounds of use. I find this interesting in regards to the origin of life. I mean if by accident or intention a cyclic system was developed that could be stand alone based on environmental conditions such as an energy source what was really made? What if this system was mutable? In regards to life it seems at the most basic level of it you have microbes, which for lack of better words really seem like nothing more then little energy processing units, they do not have any intelligence at all, they act on reacting certain elements or compounds for that matter, which to get reductionist again I think would relate to purely quantum phenomena. Also from that point on, you have an evolution of such that produces for lack of better words trophic systems of energy production in metastable mutable states. I think from intuition alone this draws with parallel to say quantum phenomena leading to an evolution of any classical system and or laws, all of course pure conjecture so don’t get to uptight. I mean for instance to totally get flipped on the topic what if what we view as heat death really is nothing more then progression into a purely alien environment in which none of the current states of energy/matter are fit to exist in? The evolution of life surely seems to point to many many questions more so on a molecular to subatomic realm that I feel also coincide with phenomena at a cosmic level such as the base reality of what nucleosynthesis is or how you obtain elements in the first place. So I think the big test I would like to run is simply that. What subsystem of the environment could you model to obtain mutable metastable behavior of matter/energy? Such as making a little nano device that basically did this along with replication. Could such truly provide insight to how life might have naturally occurred within context of our environment? The thing to me is that for the time now and into the past the earth has not decoherered into a dead frozen rock, in fact it’s a very thermodynamically cyclic system. So on a scale small enough to reach being nano again because you have that in bacteria could simply pointer states or a constant decoherence process attempting to reach classical pointer states on a level of chemical behavior within this cyclic system coincide with producing primordial life, even if it were pre-biotic chemistry alone? Does this really conflict with the definition of life being so narrow?
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