foodchain Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 Here is a speculation on gravity from a QM perspective to have destroyed by members of SFN. Could pointer states come to look like gravity? Lets say you have a ball, and you want to roll it uphill, well obviously some energy has to be exerted. Now if you have I guess an evolution of pointer states going from the system, apparatus, environment angle, could at some point say through some form of that like a conservation law of some kind, say momentum for instance that a wave function experiences a field like effect of some kind? Such as particle y has probability to be somewhere that classically it should not be, could simply a conservation law tie into that as to why a particle just does not go everywhere at once really? In another sense would it be possible to have gravity become some emergent property of quantum pointer states operating in any kind of again system, apparatus, environment sense in which the gravity arrives as a class of emergent behavior again or additive structure to a quantum system doing whatever it does? I mean in an earlier thread I made about dark matter or energy the stuff seems rather odd. Such as maybe an example of such that branched into serious difference from say the reality of how fermions behave or whatever they do, and that maybe some of the fundamental forces do not act on them in any kind of a field effect or whatever, or that maybe even conservation laws do not seem to apply if possible to speculate. So that maybe some of what we observe. I mean is the makeup of a photon that gives it such properties like being able to propagate at the speed of light right, while other material aspects of the universe cannot. Also with string theory you had the idea of many possible universe which could be completely different. So again, could say pointer states of quantum systems lead to any emergent or classical behavior, such as gravity. If so could it be possible to think that gravity is some kind of a field effect that modifies say superposition in such a system.
foodchain Posted June 17, 2008 Author Posted June 17, 2008 What's a pointer state? Well of course it traces to math I scarcely understand, but if I do understand it enough pointer states are what survive interference, or are the products of such. In a paper I am reading on the application of such to a Bloch sphere takes on properties associated or accordingly to a Bloch sphere, this I think comes about via again system, apparatus and environment. I am not sure as to if pointer states exist purely only any of the three or all three. the environment ultimately though is able to act back onto the system though, such as I think a real world example of this would be like asking if any particular atom is a closed or isolated system. Apparatus is measurement, and the environment I guess is a umbrella term really for a collection of systems and apparatus, so again I am not sure exactly as to what is the pointer state save that which persists through interference. This is why I wonder if that while interference goes along, what all can that lead to, being again if we were to change some small fundamental variable in the universe, such as if all particles had mass, what would that mean? Also again if classicality emerged from the quantum, then could gravity take on a large scale form as being maybe apparatus at a cosmic level, not so much apparatus in the form of someone’s pocket laser?
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