ecoli Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 In my MCAT review book, it says that as the number of electrons increases, in ground state elements, the atomic radius decreases, because of increased attractiveness to the nucleus. It goes on to say that ionized atoms increase in size when electrons are added. How is this apparent contradiction reconciled?
Tartaglia Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 I think the first statement implies a proton is added with each electron. But I'm not sure exactly what the second implies about protons. Also it would depend which orbital were next in the second statement (and possibly the first too)
ecoli Posted July 9, 2008 Author Posted July 9, 2008 I think the first statement implies a proton is added with each electron. Ah... true. It was about a periodic table trend across a row. But I'm not sure exactly what the second implies about protons. Also it would depend which orbital were next in the second statement (and possibly the first too) the formation of an anion, I guess with nucleus remaining the same.
swansont Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 the formation of an anion, I guess with nucleus remaining the same. It would have to. If you change the number of protons, it's not the same element. As you go across a row, adding a proton and electron, the nuclear charge grows, but the screening effect of the electrons doesn't grow as quickly, since they orbitals tend to be spread out. So the net attraction that new electron sees gets larger, and the atom gets smaller, as you move across the row. But an additional electron which forms an ion won't be attracted as much, so it will have a larger radius.
Mr Skeptic Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Also, a positive ion will be smaller, and a negative ion larger, as compared to a neutral atom.
hermanntrude Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 to understand the sizes of ions and atoms, you must consider the numbers of electrons, the numbers of protons and also the number of electrons which shield any given electron from the positively charged nucleus. I don't remember the exact details but some electrons are better at shielding than others
swansont Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 to understand the sizes of ions and atoms, you must consider the numbers of electrons, the numbers of protons and also the number of electrons which shield any given electron from the positively charged nucleus. I don't remember the exact details but some electrons are better at shielding than others I would imagine s-shell electrons would be best at shielding. The other orbitals tend to be more localized and spread out.
hermanntrude Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 it'd be in any decent chemistry textbook... i just can't remember it offhand
ecoli Posted July 12, 2008 Author Posted July 12, 2008 yeah, I'll look it up to be sure. It's probably a minor point they won't ask about, but I was just curious.
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