MrGamma Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 (edited) The grand canyon was created 6 million years ago. It is the worlds largest canyon if I am not mistaken. By definition it was formed due to water erosion. But... all the images I see of the canyon look like rifts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Canyon According to Geology the term used to describe rifting is Horst Graben. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Horst_graben.jpg Does anybody else see what I'm seeing? Wouldn't we have one hell of a lot more canyons this big on the earth if 6 million years of erosion creates a canyon this big? I mean the earth rains if I am not mistaken and it has been doing so for at least 6million years right? Edited August 6, 2008 by MrGamma
iPeppers Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 Yeah but it was formed by water erosion due to melting glaciers, not just a little rain water here and there. Interesting theory though, but wouldn't experts have been able to tell the difference between the earth sinking down due to a fault and water erosion? I'm no expert on geology, I admit, but I still try to trust the experts.
ydoaPs Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 About 4000 years ago, it rained for 40 days and 40 nights and the entire Earth was flooded. The Grand Canyon was formed in a few hours.
MrGamma Posted August 6, 2008 Author Posted August 6, 2008 (edited) Yeah but it was formed by water erosion due to melting glaciers, not just a little rain water here and there. Interesting theory though, but wouldn't experts have been able to tell the difference between the earth sinking down due to a fault and water erosion? I'm no expert on geology, I admit, but I still try to trust the experts. Well it has volcanoes all around it... and if you look at any continental volcano system... your going to find huge rifts in the immediate vicinity... Here are two other rift systems... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_African_Rift http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baikal_Rift_Zone If you can find a single volcano anywhere on the planet which does not have a volcano near by I would be very interested in seeing it. If you were living in Tibet... Would you trust your governance to the professionals? About 4000 years ago, it rained for 40 days and 40 nights and the entire Earth was flooded. The Grand Canyon was formed in a few hours. "Give me convenience or give me death..." - Jello Biafra Edited August 6, 2008 by MrGamma multiple post merged
insane_alien Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 the big thing against it being a rift is that it is not on any major fault line which would be necessary for the formation of a rift valley. i suggest you compare the grand canyon to the african rift valley.
iPeppers Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 If you were living in Tibet... Would you trust your governance to the professionals? I'm not living in Tibet, but probably, they seem like nice people . But I'm talking about trusting many respected scientists on something that they would have no reason to lie about.
Sayonara Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 "To me this looks like..." is never the beginning of a good hypothesis.
MrGamma Posted August 7, 2008 Author Posted August 7, 2008 (edited) "To me this looks like..." is never the beginning of a good hypothesis. Okay... Explain this... All volcanic island arc systems are a curved chain of volcanic islands with a trench on the convex side and volcanoes on the concave side. No exceptions. All of them look like that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_arc Plate Tectonics says it's sub ducting plate thrusting under the island, bending down to form a trench ( sometimes at an angle of 5 degrees to depths of 10km ). Why does it form a curve if a plate is scraping underneath an island and why doesn't some of the plate scrape off onto land. Because it's the land ripping apart. On a globe this size it makes a curved shape. All Volcanic island systems look like this. I have not found one single exception yet. The trench is the earth splitting apart at the crust. And the volcanoes on the concave side is where the stress is released in the earths mantle and the volcanoes erupt. Do your research on that one. Any map will work. You will find no logical alternative. Guaranteed. And while your wondering how the Grand Canyon was formed by river erosion... Ask yourself how water erosion is responsible for this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waimea_Canyon Edited August 7, 2008 by MrGamma
insane_alien Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 And while your wondering how the Grand Canyon was formed by river erosion... Ask yourself how water erosion is responsible for this. wow, argument from incredulity. quite with the fallacies. the grandcanyon bears all the hallmarks of being formed by water erosion. there is too much to explain away for it to be a tectonic feature. and then there is the fact that is NOT ON A MAJOR FAULT LINE. the area is quite stable from a geological point of view.
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