mooeypoo Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Hey guys, I am asking a question about my homework, but my point is to try and get general explanation about the method (since I am quite lost here, and the book isn't very helpful). Which is why I'm posting it here and not in the HW help section. I am using my hw as an example only; if I understand the point I will (hopefully) be able to solve this myself. Okay, then. I started a new advanced physics course (2, actually, expect questions about the math of the other one soon) and there's a lot of math that gets me quite confused. I am familiar with the general principles, but I think that somewhere I'm getting myself confused over the terms and permutations. Help.. please.. The question (as an example): By calculating the components, verify the identity: [math]\sum_{k}\varepsilon_{ijk}\varepsilon_{mnk} = \delta_{im}\delta_{jn} - \delta_{in}\delta_{jm}[/math] Use this to obtain the simplification of (A x B) \cdot (A x B) Ooookay then. I know that [math]\delta_{im}=\sum\lambda_{ij}\lambda_{kj}[/math] Which is the difference between the two angles. Also, C=AxB, and [math] C_{i}=\sum_{j,k}\varepsilon_{ijk}A_{j}B_{k}[/math] So this is supposed to help me breaking down the components. Here's what I've tried to do: [math] (AxB)_{i}=\sum_{j,k}\varepsilon_{ijk}A_{j}B_{k} (CxD)_{i}=\sum_{m,n}\varepsilon_{imn}A_{m}B_{n} (AxB)\cdot(CxD)=\sum_{i}(\sum_{j,k}\varepsilon_{ijk}A_{j}B_{k})(\sum_{m,n}\varepsilon_{imn}B_{m}D_{n}) [/math] Then, I tried to break them into their components: [math] (\sum_{j,k}\varepsilon_{ijk}A_{j}B_{k}) = [/math] [math]i=1 [/math] [math]A_{2}B_{3}-A_{3}B_{2}[/math] [math]i=2[/math] [math]A_{3}B_{1}-A_{1}B_{3}[/math] [math]i=3 [/math] [math]A_{1}B_{2}-A_{2}B_{1}[/math] And the same with C and D. I have the feeling that the difference between the components lead to the Kronecker Delta (since it's a difference too) but I'm not sure, and I am quite confused with all the symbols and different applications of them. Aaaaand...I have no clue where to go from here. Meh, I think I got completely confused here. Help? thanks in advance, ~moo
ajb Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 (edited) Advice; Never write out the components in full like that. So, [math](A\times B)_{i} = \epsilon_{ijk}A_{j}B_{k}[/math] where we sum over repeated indices. Also [math]A\cdot B = A_{i}\delta_{ij}B_{j} = A_{i}B_{i}[/math]. Thus [math](A\times B)\cdot(A\times B) = \epsilon_{ijk}\epsilon_{imn}A_{j}B_{k}A_{m}B_{n} = (\delta_{jm}\delta_{kn} - \delta_{jn} \delta_{km})A_{j}B_{k}A_{m}B_{n},[/math] which can be written as [math](A\times B)^{2} = A^{2}B^{2} - (A \cdot B)^{2}[/math]. Edited September 7, 2008 by ajb
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