amoda Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 I'm just wondering what people think about movie/game ratings. Do you think that kids aged 10 shouldnt watch movies like kill bill vol.1 or play games like gta? or do you think it's their choice? I personally feel as if ratings are useless. I went to R rated movies with "EXTREME VIOLENCE" labels and came out of the movie laughing. I've played gta vice city and have never went out in the streets with a bazooka in my hand. So i find ratings uselss and also the recent inforcments in my fav. movie theatre forces me to download movies ( from now in you need id to get in to A.A and R rates movies). So because of such stupid rules im forced to download the movies and thankfully since im in Canada that isnt illegal. I'd be more than willing to fork over my hard earned $7.50 but since they dont want it, ill keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 What a nice story, anymore? Ratings+violence+sex=bad things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 I do believe they tried to restrict the selling of games to within certain age groups in Washington not long ago (like 18+ for gta), and I also believe that the games companies basically took them to court and argued it was in violation of the constitution or something. Personally I think it's immoral to sell these kinds of games to kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iglak Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 what the ratings try to do is a good thing. kids shouldn't be subject to excessive violence that puts the kid in the place of the victim of the commiter. kids shouldn't be subject to... porn, simply put. but the rating system is done completely wrong. for example: it was recently debated whether or not to make all movies that show someone smoking a cigarette rated "R". that would cause almost all "G" movies to be rated "R" (WTF!?), since most "G" movies show the "bad guy" smoking. the biggest problem is that all rules for what rating to give a movie do not take into account context. i think age 10 is a bit too young to see "Kill Bill". i think age 13-15 is when kids are able to understand it and other "R" movies (or the equivalent in games)(i still haven't seen Kill Bill , and i am not a very good judge of what age is able to understand, since it is a wide range) unrelated (for the most part) to what i just said, but i think that kids should be able to see whatever they want, as long as the parents aren't afraid of what could happen to their kid after seeing the movie. everything evil always ties back to fear at the basic level... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Guess what... the real world is inescapably full of sex and violence, and shielding kids from it only hurts them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 But exposing it to them at a very young age is "brutally honest", in my opnion and they should only see what they are mature enough to see. If they grew up seeing people popping iki's, smoking and bingeing i think they will be more inclined to do so at an older age aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Also there is alot of rape, Murder and other imoral and bad things in society, dosent make it right or mean that our kids should witness it everyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 If it was addressed by parents in the household settings as early as possible it wouldn't be as bad when they actually witnessed it, which often can happen very early, particularly in large cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 If it was addressed by parents in the household settings as early as possible it wouldn't be as bad when they actually witnessed it, which often can happen very early, particularly in large cities. Sorry, I don't have your extensive knowledge of parenting so what exactly do you mean by "addressed by"? Imo kids have plenty to be doing and thinking about while growing up without having to get it into their heads that horrible things happen to people in both fictional and real situations. Having sneaked up to watch a lot of movies I was too young to see, when I was a kid, I can tell you now I saw a lot of things I'd rather not have seen at that age. Kids should be playing and laughing like kids, not learning why Jimmy is having his head stoved in and car burned by Franky Knuckles. [edit] For instance, do you think you need to expose a 6-yr old kid to the horrors of House of 1,000 Corpses or the remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre, just in case they get attacked by a family of weirdoes while on a road-trip in some 10 years time? Just the fact that they wouldn't make any sense of the plot or motivations makes that funny; the actual content of the films makes it a sick idea. I think you'd draw the line before those particular films (if not, I pity your future kids). But now we're at a point where we have to ask "where should a line be drawn?", which we've encountered before in other discussions. And what do you know! Turns out film classifications aren't put on there just for a joke! They're actually attributed by a uniform system of criterion satisfaction! Wow, that's almost like the line was agreed on by various panels and put in place for you, so you don't need to screen everything your children watch for scenes you don't think are suitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 actualy I`ve seen alot of things as an adult I`de really rather not have done! it certainly didn`t enhance my education in terms of Life Skills, it just served to re-affirm just how sick some people can actualy be, something I was already under no illusion about. I`m against censorship where the material is of potential value be that good or bad, but somethings are plain and simply worthless and serve no other purpose than to probably make someone alot of money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Sometimes children can get the wrong message on whats being represented in a movie or game.Sure it can help them when theyre older but you dont always want to think about something you saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atinymonkey Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 it certainly didn`t enhance my education in terms of Life Skills' date=' it just served to re-affirm just how sick some people can actualy be, something I was already under no illusion about.[/quote'] That's so true. There are some truly odd people outside, that I'd be more comfortable not to know so much about. Normal on the outside, oh so deeply disturbed within. It's not the ones who are disturbed that worry me, it's the ones that revel in how sick they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 If it was addressed by parents in the household settings as early as possible it wouldn't be as bad when they actually witnessed it, which often can happen very early, particularly in large cities. Try 'addressing' a kid and you'll find out why this doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 I think kids see far to much......to illustrate my point Running around in some game blowing chunks of meat off some guy (not nessecarily bad) is kinda to graphic for under 10 year olds i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amoda Posted May 5, 2004 Author Share Posted May 5, 2004 i understand the points of what some of you are saying but i still dont see why it so bad. Most kids under 10 dont even want to see movies like dawn of the dead but would rather see movies like the crappy stuck on you. ( this is by the 10yr olds i know which are like 5). I just belive that by the time you relize that most of the stuff in the movies arent real and stories like the texas chainsaw massacre are very rare and all i dont think there is anything to worry about. I also think that ppl who say that games like GTA make kids get out in the streets with guns to be out of their minds, the only time a kid will go out in the streets with a gun after playing gta is if he/she had a problem before playing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blike Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Guess what... the real world is inescapably full of sex and violence, and shielding kids from it only hurts them. Not true. What I find disguisting is how some people bring their 6-10 year olds to movies filled with sex and violence. Just recently I watched a movie that showed a pregnant woman being stabbed in the stomach. It was pretty intense, even for adults. Beside me sat a wide-eyed 6 year old with their parent. I was horrified. (although the scene later turned out to be a setup, she wasn't really pregnant) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amoda Posted May 5, 2004 Author Share Posted May 5, 2004 A case like that is very rare. No responsible adult would ever bring their 6yr kid to such a movie. I'm sure that no parent out there would wilfully put their kids in such a situation. I do have my limits though a 6yr old kid is too young to see such a movie, but not a 14yr old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 I don’t think kids have the right to see what they want because kids don’t have rights (sorry if that offends you...)! It's the parents right to decide what there kids watch, not some stupid group of retards who are paid off by film producers. These days many parents don’t even raise there kids. They are raised by other kids at school, movies and GTA. Why should they be able to use the ratings to spend even LESS time with there kids. Fine let your kids play GTA but for god’s sake don’t use it to raise them! If some kid goes up to the store to buy GTA by them self when the parent doesn’t want them to I only have one question: WHERES THE PARENT???? There is a difference between playing GTA every once in a while and your parents teaching you that blowing people heads off is not nice and being raised by it and constantly being told by an animated character that killing people is the best way to handle your problems. If you’re taught that killing people is the best way to handle your problems and you have a problem… Ok, sorry for rambling but that’s what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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