Darkpassenger Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Found some new info on Dark Energy and its possible existence Have a listen and Let me Know what you think. http://earideas.com/earideas/explore/show/60159/Study+Shines+Light+On+Existence+of+Dark+Energy *Scroll down mid page hit play button /adjust volume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedarkshade Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 When he was talking about empty space energy, I thought of an interesting opinion I heard (IIRC it was Richard Muller). He said that maybe vacuum repells itself somehow, and as this repulsion takes place, mroe vacuum is 'created' hence the repulsion increases and it goes on. btw: accepting for a moment that cosmological constant changes, why is it then called a constant? thanks for sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkpassenger Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 *Quick question what is this IIRC Wow never thought of the notion of a vacuum that repels it self it is a new way to think about it,that is if it holds and water. I am sure there is some technical reason that it is still call it a constant or it just stuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 If I Remember Correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npts2020 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 When he was talking about empty space energy, I thought of an interesting opinion I heard (IIRC it was Richard Muller). He said that maybe vacuum repells itself somehow, and as this repulsion takes place, mroe vacuum is 'created' hence the repulsion increases and it goes on. btw: accepting for a moment that cosmological constant changes, why is it then called a constant? thanks for sharing The cosmological constant only changes relative to our present time. Relative to the cosmos it is constant, it is the cosmos that changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedarkshade Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 The cosmological constant only changes relative to our present time. Relative to the cosmos it is constant, it is the cosmos that changes.Thank you for that:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 The cosmological constant only changes relative to our present time. Relative to the cosmos it is constant, it is the cosmos that changes. Can you please provide a reference for this, since when does the cosmological constant change with time ? You can plug in different values to describe a vacuum e.g negative or positive pressure, but that's different from what you've stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npts2020 Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 Can you please provide a reference for this, since when does the cosmological constant change with time ? You can plug in different values to describe a vacuum e.g negative or positive pressure, but that's different from what you've stated. You are absolutely correct, I should have said if the cosmological constant changes. I will try to find where I was reading about it possibly changing over time but it was not recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WardXmodem Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I love listening to the podcast of NPR "Science Friday". I caught one on "dark energy", which discussed such things as determining the speed (acceleration?) of very distant (and thus old) galaxies, etc. The perhaps single most interesting thing is that they computed that dark energy - the stuff that pushes the universe apart - appeared about 7 billion years ago! This means, that up until 7B years ago, the universe expanded at a rate consistent with big bang theory, and ... ummm... relatively traditional physics, BUT, starting then at 7B, the remote galaxies start accelerating -- the expansion of the universe accelerates. The idea that there is "vacuum energy", and that that may be "dark energy" is fascinating - but perhaps the vacuum needs to be "more complete" or "have stuff further away to start this phenomenon", which would explain why there is a time frame where the vacuum isn't empty enough? Anyway, fascinating discussion. _____________ Since this is my first post, I will add that I'm Ward Christensen, then inventor of the world's first BBS, that Randy Suess (HW) and I put together in the late 70's. I patterned it after a "cork board and push-pins" kind of physical bulletin board, and the term (BBS) stuck. This was a bit after I did the modem.exe file xfer program, later renamed Xmodem, the first popular protocol between "microcomputer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 You are absolutely correct, I should have said if the cosmological constant changes. I will try to find where I was reading about it possibly changing over time but it was not recently. Sorry for the blunt reply npts2020, I was at work on Christmas Eve, everyone else was down the pub So I was staring at the equations scratching my head after reading your post....of course after massive time periods there's no reason to believe the value wouldn't change. I remember reading, even the fine structure constant would be subject to change if you turn the clock back enough, IIRC around 7 billion years, so I'll look for a link. In the meantime, here's a link to npr, which I believe covers WardXmodem's post. Don't have time to listen to it right now...I really should be studying. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98499894 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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