THE FIFTH KNIGH Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 February 8th 2009 Be Aware & Be Prepared: Solar Cycle #24 is expected to intensify dramatically by 2011 through 2012. Some people are reporting a visual color change in our Sun, to be a brighter white and noting it used to be 'yellow'. No information exists on this phenomena, as to whether it is atmospheric related (weak ozone) or solar related (Sun heating up?). My Personal Testimony: Two years ago I personally called and spoke with a scientist in charge of public information on solar observations. I reported noticing a brighter 'White Sun' and remarked on possible atmospherics (ozone) and solar helium conversion ratios and my eyes bugged when --- They did not even deny the possibility that the Sun may be burning directly into its helium core (meaning Red Giant Phase [far] into our future[?])! There was an extreme song and dance and I finally realized I was getting nowhere. Nervousness in the specialist's voice made me even more nervous myself --- So what can I say, except that they suspect something that we do not know about yet. Even the local pastor is talking about the 'White Sun' and Time speeding up. Something is really changing the 'norm' in increments. Example: Time is being perceived to be speeding up globally - this has been noticed for the past 2-3 years. Solar weather can be damaging to human health and cause major electrical disruptions within all electronic network systems (if not properly hardened). * Note: Whether Solar Cycle #24 ramps-up in severe magnitude causing damage or instead dims into a Solar Maunder Minimum causing a 'Little Ice Age', then either way we should be prepared. The odds are increasing proportionately toward huge Coronal Mass Ejections being released from our Sun --- eventually. At the moment, the scientific community is 'not' absolutely sure how to assess the current solar informational data. If they do not know - then we do not know! The scientific community is actually split 50/50 on which way this wave will break. Please read: Solar Cycle Progression and Prediction - noaa.gov: http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/SC24/index.html Solar Cycle 24 Prediction Press Release - noaa.gov: http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/SC24/PressRelease.html The Sun's magnetic field (magnetosphere) affects Earth weather/climate in ways we do not currently comprehend. Current scientific studies have escalated and are ongoing -- in progress. All we can do is research and learn how to protect ourselves and each other without panic, in the case of any major electrical/communication outages or unusual freezing temperatures, depending upon the solar outcome . Panic is the animal kingdom's mind-killer, to cause prey to freeze in fear, then to be terminated by that useless panic. The only use it ever had was for the predators to be able to feed on the paralyzed victim as prey! Have faith --- use the self-earned protection-shield of knowledge --- Get Informed. World governments should render detailed alert warnings and instructions, even if it's worse case scenarios with best guess advice! Our Sun is a fluctuating massive nuclear blast-furnace, with an extremely complex set of circumstances, so our officials will have to possibly change their view often and not be penalized for any uncertainty (I am certain that they are uncertain). I personally view our world's current position, as being located within a 'natural' extinction phase event, that is being unnaturally accelerated by man's industrial revolution . . . . .. Whether its natural or not, we must fight for our right to survive, but by somehow retaining our selected 'humane' nature to remain civilized at the same time! We need to press our officials for the 'truth', rather than being treated like mindless children; even if this deeper truth reveals, that they do not know for sure. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Solar References: Scientists Warn of Increase in Magnetic Storms - vovnews.vn: http://english.vovnews.vn/Home/Scientists-warn-of-increase-in-magnetic-storms/20092/101630.vov Sunspots Mark Coming of Solar Maximum, Solar Magnetic Storms - Discovery Space: http://dsc.discovery.com/space/my-take/solar-storm-sten-odenwald.html Sunspot is Harbinger of New Solar Cycle, Increasing Risk For Electrical Systems - NOAA: http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/20080104_sunspot.html What The Solar Cycle 24 Ramp-Up Could Look Like - Watts Up With That: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/01/19/what-the-solar-cycle-24-ramp-up-could-look-like/ Earth's Magnetic Field Has Massive Breach - Scientists Baffled - Watts Up With That?: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/12/16/earths-magnetic-field-has-massive-breach-scientists-baffled/ Little Ice Age Now (By 2012): http://www.iceagenow.com/New%20Little%20Ice%20Age.htm All The Information of NOAA Scientists Say New Solar Cycle Increases Risk For Electrical Systems - 4engr.com: http://www.4engr.com/research/catalog/514/index.html Solar Sentinels - nasa.gov: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/01sep_sentinels.htm?list104813 Powerful Solar Storms Could Shut Down U.S. For Months - foxnews.com: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,478024,00.html Solar Physics - nasa.gov: http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/ Sun - Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Solar Photo-Image Gallery: SOHO Gallery - nasa.gov: http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/gallery/ The Sun - SolarSystem.com: http://www.solarsystem.com/planets/sun.htm Images of Sun - nasa.gov: http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/target/Sun Sun - Page 1 - solarviews.com: http://solarviews.com/cap/index/sun1.html +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Youtube Video Section: Skeptics Guide 5X5 Episode 35 - Sunspots: Unstoppable Solar Cycles: Halloween 2003 Solar Storms: http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=DE&hl=de&v=_Y2gv-MoQx4 The Little Ice Age: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6VAesQfe6o ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Signature: THE FIFTH KNIGHT'S NEWS http://www.care2.com/news/member/510010530?sort=submitted
swansont Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 Even the local pastor is talking about the 'White Sun' and Time speeding up. Something is really changing the 'norm' in increments. Example: Time is being perceived to be speeding up globally - this has been noticed for the past 2-3 years. I haven't noticed anything. And what do the ramblings of a pastor have to do with this?
THE FIFTH KNIGH Posted February 8, 2009 Author Posted February 8, 2009 It is amazing how obtuse the general population has become! This post is designed for those individuals who have developed the capability for independent thought --- there are some --- I just know there are. The main-body of this post is solar cycle #24 reference materials with added personal observations, personal testimony and conjectured 'speculation'. To detract from this main-body is your right, but pastors are human too and can make personal observations as well. The reason I added that small reference, was because in my area it is highly unusual for religious leaders to verbally refer to 'odd' occurences in public. Over the past 3 years, I have listened and asked many people 'on the street' (cashiers, pastors, relatives, doctors, nurses, friends, lawyers . . . etc.) and repeatedly they confided: 1. The Sun is visually turning a 'brighter white' in our sky. 2. The Sun's heat since the early 1980's, is more like the feeling of being 'microwaved', than just the expected warmth felt by sunlight upon a surface. It has increased in its intensity since 2002 - 2003. 3. The passage of Time is being perceived as accelerating: years seeming like months, months seeming like weeks and so on. 4. Visual color shifts of yellow and green have widely been experienced. 5. Periods of serious cognitive breakdown in the personal ability to remember and organize daily responsibilities. Some relate this to extreme new level of 'CRS'. * Regardless of the exact cause, the effects are being truly perceived by the general population worldwide and they have 'not' been prepared to handle the general truth --- that something is going on --- the 'norm' is beginning to change in larger dosages. I am sure this will be totally unsatisfactory for you, so I will not waste further time in discussion, on that which I already know to be true. Admittedly, I do not know what these changes are pointing toward, but I thought if I brought them forward before the public science forum, that someone could shed some light on these circumstances. Its easier to ridicule someone at a computer terminal, than become personally productive, but I completely support your right of opinion. Your post is your opinion and mine is mine. If I have offended you somehow in these remarks, then I absolutely apologize here and now, because I just am appalled outright at people picking apart other people, hiding behind their safe little cyber-shields. Observations #1-5 are the target of this post. P.S.: That pastor was not 'rambling', he was expressing a justified public concern.
Klaynos Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 It is amazing how obtuse the general population has become! This post is designed for those individuals who have developed the capability for independent thought --- there are some --- I just know there are. The main-body of this post is solar cycle #24 reference materials with added personal observations, personal testimony and conjectured 'speculation'. To detract from this main-body is your right, but pastors are human too and can make personal observations as well. The reason I added that small reference, was because in my area it is highly unusual for religious leaders to verbally refer to 'odd' occurences in public. Over the past 3 years, I have listened and asked many people 'on the street' (cashiers, pastors, relatives, doctors, nurses, friends, lawyers . . . etc.) and repeatedly they confided: 1. The Sun is visually turning a 'brighter white' in our sky. Do you have any spectral evidence for this? 2. The Sun's heat since the early 1980's, is more like the feeling of being 'microwaved', than just the expected warmth felt by sunlight upon a surface. It has increased in its intensity since 2002 - 2003. Again, spectral evidence? 3. The passage of Time is being perceived as accelerating: years seeming like months, months seeming like weeks and so on. This is a common human thing, when you are a baby just 10 days old 1 day is 10% of you life and memories, when you are 100 1 days is less than 0.003% of your life and memories, that is a BIG difference. 4. Visual color shifts of yellow and green have widely been experienced. Spectral evidence is required here. 5. Periods of serious cognitive breakdown in the personal ability to remember and organize daily responsibilities. Some relate this to extreme new level of 'CRS'. What's that now? * Regardless of the exact cause, the effects are being truly perceived by the general population worldwide and they have 'not' been prepared to handle the general truth --- that something is going on --- the 'norm' is beginning to change in larger dosages. I am sure this will be totally unsatisfactory for you, so I will not waste further time in discussion, on that which I already know to be true. You're right is is unsatisfactory, what science requires is evidence. Sunspot cycles are nothing to do with helium burning in the sun, if that was starting to happen we would notice a massive change in the neutrino output of the sun. We have not. Admittedly, I do not know what these changes are pointing toward, but I thought if I brought them forward before the public science forum, that someone could shed some light on these circumstances. Its easier to ridicule someone at a computer terminal, than become personally productive, but I completely support your right of opinion. Your post is your opinion and mine is mine. If I have offended you somehow in these remarks, then I absolutely apologize here and now, because I just am appalled outright at people picking apart other people, hiding behind their safe little cyber-shields. Observations #1-5 are the target of this post. P.S.: That pastor was not 'rambling', he was expressing a justified public concern.
swansont Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 Your post is your opinion and mine is mine. If I have offended you somehow in these remarks, then I absolutely apologize here and now, because I just am appalled outright at people picking apart other people, hiding behind their safe little cyber-shields. Observations #1-5 are the target of this post. P.S.: That pastor was not 'rambling', he was expressing a justified public concern. No, actually, my post is not an opinion. I work in the field of precise time. "I haven't noticed anything" is a reflection of that: time is not speeding up globally. As to your perception of time, I don't see how that's scientifically relevant. As to the rest, they are all anecdotes, and what you need to present are data. The 'net is full of people who "observe" things that are mistaken. What is required is objective measurement. Do you have any?
Mokele Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 Oh, look, another thread in which you make grandiose, apocalyptic claims, completely devoid of evidence. $10 says you never offer any substantiative evidence, and then move on to your next bizarre claim. Zombies this time? Atlantis? Aliens? Stop wasting our time. Mokele
mooeypoo Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 From CBS News, (because the Mainstream Media is so reliable scientifically): Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/26/tech/main2732040.shtml?source=RSSattr=SciTech_2732040 Peak Sunspot Cycle Expected In 2011-2012 But Scientists Disagree On How Much It Will Impact Society aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa--oh, wait, there's a byline.. hm. NASA, though, says this: Solar physicist David Hathaway of the National Space Science & Technology Center (NSSTC) explains: "First, remember what sunspots are--tangled knots of magnetism generated by the sun's inner dynamo. A typical sunspot exists for just a few weeks. Then it decays, leaving behind a 'corpse' of weak magnetic fields." Enter the conveyor belt. "The top of the conveyor belt skims the surface of the sun, sweeping up the magnetic fields of old, dead sunspots. The 'corpses' are dragged down at the poles to a depth of 200,000 km where the sun's magnetic dynamo can amplify them. Once the corpses (magnetic knots) are reincarnated (amplified), they become buoyant and float back to the surface." Presto—new sunspots! ... All this happens with massive slowness. "It takes about 40 years for the belt to complete one loop," says Hathaway. The speed varies "anywhere from a 50-year pace (slow) to a 30-year pace (fast)." ... "History shows that big sunspot cycles 'ramp up' faster than small ones," he says. "I expect to see the first sunspots of the next cycle appear in late 2006 or 2007—and Solar Max to be underway by 2010 or 2011." Who's right? Time will tell. Either way, a storm is coming. Source: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/10mar_stormwarning.htm A storm!! A STORM!!-- wait.. a storm? Reading this further shows that while it's true that in the next few years we will probably see an increase in sunspots (and bigger ones), the danger they pose are mostly for satellites and relatively delicate - high up in the sky - electronic equipment. Not for human life. The potential damage of these solar sunspots are still debated, as far as I could read, but again - most of the estimations speak of relatively limited electronic damage. Satellite companies should probably worry, but they worry every time there's a sunspot; it's part of the dangers in space. It's not an apocalypse. It's not going to change time as we know it. It's not going to erase the rules of physics. It happened before, and it will happen again. The world didn't turn upside down and inside out the last time, it will unlikely do so this time. ~moo 1
D H Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 February 8th 2009 Be Aware & Be Prepared: Solar Cycle #24 is expected to intensify dramatically by 2011 through 2012. It's called the "solar cycle" for a reason. Some people are reporting a visual color change in our Sun, to be a brighter white and noting it used to be 'yellow'. Some people are wrong. No information exists on this phenomena, as to whether it is atmospheric related (weak ozone) or solar related (Sun heating up?). No information exists on this phenomena because it doesn't exist. Look at it this way: A visibly variable sun would invalidate the climatological models that underlie claims of anthropogenic global warming. The large number of scientists who doubt the validity of AGW would have published evidence of a visibly variable sun in every major scientific journal that touches on climatology. There are no such publications. The solar cycle does not change the visible output of the Sun. It does change the invisible output of the Sun, and by quite a bit. The Sun puts out considerably more energy in the radio range during solar max than during solar min. The solar wind also increases significantly during solar max. You do not see radio waves or the solar wind.
Fedace Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 It is entirely possible that our sun could lash out a Giant Sun Flare like we never seen before. All solar scientists agree that our sun is increasing its activity. To what end, noone knows. Our solar science is still very primitive at best. If this giant solar flare hits earth directly, we are toast,,literally. but then chance of that happening is slim to none.
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