albertlee Posted May 17, 2004 Posted May 17, 2004 Does any one know any excellent ebooks, website or etc related to Dos? Albert
Dave Posted May 17, 2004 Posted May 17, 2004 Just out of curiosity, why would you want to use dos as an OS?
albertlee Posted May 17, 2004 Author Posted May 17, 2004 although dos is outdated, but it is still very important to learn as part of understanding computer............. any body for more suggestion on my first message? Albert
Dave Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Not really. If you want to understand your computer more, read up on the hardware.
Aegir Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Quote it is still very important to learn as part of understanding computer............. Albert How so ? Dos doesn't even exist in the latest versions of Windows. Unless you are trying to understand a 486 you really don't need to know alot about dos.
albertlee Posted May 18, 2004 Author Posted May 18, 2004 Well, if there is no Dos, there is no Windows......Dos is the shell of Windows, learning Dos will understand more on how Windows operate on the hardware....... just like macintosh includes Unix....... Again, Any body knows the resources about learning Dos? apreciate Albert
Tesseract Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 DOS is still similar to command prompt in windows XP and is alos still needed.I recommend Linux over windows though.
Dave Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Quote Well' date=' if there is no Dos, there is no Windows......Dos is the shell of Windows, learning Dos will understand more on how Windows operate on the hardware....... just like macintosh includes Unix.......[/quote'] Yes, Macintosh is based off of the bsd kernel and hence looking into some bsd stuff would tell you a lot about what happens in the hardware - mainly because it's all open source. However, DOS was replaced in windows 2000 by the command prompt which won't help you understand how windows uses the hardware. If you really want to learn about hardware and things like that, why not look into assembly language?
Sayonara Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Tesseract said: Who would spend their time learning about that? Developers, system designers, programmers.
Dave Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Someone who's interested in how programs actually work, rather than typing some random stuff into a compiler and assuming it'll work.
Tesseract Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Holy crap Im talking about a normal person who just wants to know...who would look through all the textbooks and stuff....its much easier to use DOS then learn assembly language, thats what the threads about remember.Does everyone think Im stupid.Lol I cant joke about anything around here.You people are far too serious. (that was a joke too)
Sayonara Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 This is a thread asking for help. We don't joke around in those in a way that could be misleading to someone who is trying to learn. If you aren't going to contribute to answering albertlee's questions, don't post in this thread.
Tesseract Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Quote This is a thread asking for help. We don't joke around in those in a way that could be misleading to someone who is trying to learn. If you aren't going to contribute to answering albertlee's questions' date=' don't post in this thread.[/quote'] I already did Sayonara, look at the third post down.Then look at the ninth.The next post by me was a joke to make things here more enjoyable, I suppose you dont like jokes Sayonara.
Dave Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Tesseract said: Holy crap Im talking about a normal person who just wants to know...who would look through all the textbooks and stuff....its much easier to use DOS then learn assembly language, thats what the threads about remember.Does everyone think Im stupid.Lol Assembly language is itself pretty easy, it's just shifting things around in registers and things like that. For someone that's interested in the way computers work, I think it's an ideal way to learn a bit more about it.
Tesseract Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 If you want to do that for a living, which is maybe nice, whats the pay? Yeah but isnt learning DOS easier that assembly language?
Sayonara Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Tesseract said: I already did Sayonara, look at the third post down.Then look at the ninth.The next post by me was a joke to make things here more enjoyable, I suppose you dont like jokes Sayonara. Whether your first post will be helpful remains to be seen. Your second post doesn't help him one bit. I'm not saying that you didn't contribute, just that non-contributions aren't a good plan in this type of thread. I could have phrased it better, admittedly.
Dave Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Sure, learning how DOS works is easier, you just have to type some commands in and bingo you're done. However, it still doesn't solve the problem that you don't know what these commands are doing on a fundamental level (i.e. how they affect the hardware). It's just another abstraction layer between you and the hardware, like windows and any other OS. Assembly language is just about the closest way to interact with the hardware (barr learning machine code, which is admittedly very dull and basically the same thing).
Dave Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Quite; but there's nothing wrong with pointing out alternative methods for learning the things he wants to learn about.
albertlee Posted May 18, 2004 Author Posted May 18, 2004 Any way....... I am still asking does anyone know the resources like ebooks, website or anything on the Internet related to Dos? Secondly, I know assembly language is same thing, but...... What I want to is more about the usage than knowledge.... like to do something on hardware that windows cant, using Dos would be much easier than assembly language.....I guess........ Any body? Apreciate Albert
Aegir Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Quote Yeah but isnt learning DOS easier that assembly language? Thats hardly realavent given that learnign DOS wont get you anywhere, Windows 2000 and XP do not have DOS at all, therefore unless you are workingwith 9x systems DOS is useless.
albertlee Posted May 18, 2004 Author Posted May 18, 2004 To Aegar, I think although Windows Xp do not have Dos, it still has Command.com..........also autoexec.bat............which means Dos is the shell of Windows.....knowing Dos is helpful to understand the windows kernel....... Secondly, again......does anyone know the resources like ebooks, website or anything on the Internet related to Dos? Apreciate Albert
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