gre Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 How can you calculate the thermionic work function of hydrogen? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaeroll Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 What data do you have available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gre Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) No data, I'm just looking for the equation to figure it out. I just have: J = A*T^2 * e^(-W/kT) where, J=current density, A=Richardson's contant,T=temp in kelvins, W=work function. Edit: I meant A= Richardson's constant Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedI've read the the thermionic work function is usually right around 1/2 the elements ionization energy.. But, I'm still looking for an equation and a definite answer ... Can anyone help? Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedWhat is required for hydrogen to even have free electrons? I guess at a certain temperature and pressure ti becomes a metal in theory .. But what temperature and pressure this theorized to be? Edited February 20, 2009 by gre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaeroll Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I think you're studying this in a slightly different context to that which I am familiar with the term 'work function', so I'm not sure I can help. I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest rearranging your formula in terms of W and pump whatever numbers you have available into it? Bulk samples can be ionised without them becoming metallic, e.g. in a mass spectrometer or a particle accelerator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gre Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share Posted March 4, 2009 (edited) Thanks, I tried that but the result looked wrong.. Maybe I was doing the math wrong. How could you solve for W in the above equation? Edited March 4, 2009 by gre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timo Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 J = A*T^2 * e^(-W/kT) [math] \Rightarrow W = - kT \log \frac{ J}{AT^2}[/math], "log" meaning the natural logarithm (often written as "ln"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gre Posted March 6, 2009 Author Share Posted March 6, 2009 Thanks Atheist. I came up with 7.35 eV this time for ground state hydrogen. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedHow would you solve for "T" in that equation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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