petebro Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Having just read recently more research is to be conducted into psuedopods and volcanic underwater vents and the micro organisms that are released, are we closer to a lifeforms origins ? . The amoeba for example is a moving cell we often here about panspermia being the necessary cells for all forms of life do we draw closer to the darwin when we consider moving cells .The white blood cell being the closest to a psuedopod it must have a close relationship as these water micro organisms, it struck me on visit to chile and the tatio geysers that i was observing micro organisms being vented out of hot thermal springs and a great deal of organic matter maybe introduced by a source of natural venting of hot water from geo thermal heat sources. Water itself is a wash with living bacteria and amoeba and we see the psuedopods active and thriving in water . We maybe a long way from proving that lifeforms have evolved in a prolonged process of evolution from such microorganisms but it is a area of science tha can only grow steadily through research . Its a case of learning how to crawl before you can walk . Let the baffling process begin , it may sound incredible that living cells may have began to steadily move and then crawl but if we look at our reproductive process it does indeed resemble a strong link .I suppose charles darwin came into great conflict with the theologians of his day by the mere suggestion of evolving species and i think perhaps science may have shyed away from this area of research we can,t discount anything until we learn from extensive research . I seem to remember a king who many moons ago said we are raised from the miery clay etc , etc . Are we indeed created in a long evolutionary process from such it may have a strong connection to religious beliefs and one day we may vindicate charles darwin for his suggestions and pioneering research and begin to view him as less of a heretic and more of a pioneer. I suppose the research will continue and dna may unlock many codes of the blood connections to psuedopods ,blood cells , microorganisms , evolution. I suppose it is a case of crawl before you can walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanntrude Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 moved to biology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokele Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Um, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharonY Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Um, what? I second that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npts2020 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Um, I didn't know Charles Darwin needed any vindication, his ideas have only been refined and made stronger over time. Exactly on what is it that you are basing the notion that blood cells and any single-celled organisms are related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ophiolite Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Petebro, I am going to echo the remarks of the other posters: what are you talking about? Specifically - 1) You imply that Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection is a fringe theory. (... perhaps science may have shyed away from this area of research; we may vindicate Charles Darwin) Surely you realise that evolution lies at the heart of most biology research; that the basic concept is not questioned by any serious scientist. So what do you mean by these statements. I am greatly puzzled. 2) You imply that complex multicellular organisms may have evolved from simpler unicellular life. Why imply this when it is fully understood to be the case. You state "We maybe a long way from proving that lifeforms have evolved in a prolonged process of evolution." But we are not a long way from this. That has been well established for many, many decades. 3) You make several references to movement. You seem to attach particular importance to movement, however it is not clear to me why you think this is so important. Petebro, I don't wish to discourage you - and I worry that the responses to your post could be discouraging - but you seem unaware of the current status of Darwin's theory and the derivatives of it. I hope you can channel your obvious interest in this field into learning a little more about current ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDG Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I think the field of Biology has gone much further than you are aware. You would probably find a good textbook (or even a course) on general biology to be fascinating, and well worth your time Can anyone suggest a good general bio book to get him started? Note: when considering a biology book, steer clear of those that argue that evolution is "only a theory": they will lead you astray. Evolution is a theory in the same sense that quantum mechanics is: it is the best scientific explanation we have for the way the world works. Although scientists still differ on some of the finer points, like details of mechanism, no serious biologist doubts that evolution is the way that complex organisms arise. Books that attack evolution, or purport to offer a "balanced approach" invariably leave out or misstate the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 It's been a long time since I've been in school, and I haven't reviewed it myself, by I've heard good things about this one: http://www.millerandlevine.com/ Table of Contents and Sections by Chapter: http://www.millerandlevine.com/chapter/toc.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharonY Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) For some reasons I tend to like the Campbell "Biology". Probably because they give out nice slides that you can use in lectures ;P Well, most do. But I like the frog. Edited February 27, 2009 by CharonY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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