blike Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Umm, did you see my points above?You didn't make any points other than: So it just happens that the colour of the walls are the same.And that it just happens that a chair the same as Nick Berg is sitting on is right beside the yellow coloured wall. At least try and rebutt what I'm saying rather that just restating the initial premise. You have to tell me why that plastic chair is unique or that its impossible for others to have a simliar model. I can see where there might be an argument if the chair was an uncommon style, but white plastic? Everyone has one. Points like this DO NOT have ANYTHING to do with your premise that it took place at Abu Gharab: "he body is completely motionless even as the knife is brought to bear – not so much as an instinctive wriggle." "jt little emerges and when the head was raised – not a drop of blood is seen to fall." I've already stated why I believe your points are wrong, now in order for you to make yourself convincing, you have to show why my argument is wrong and the points are still valid. [Arguing 101] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 No the point of that is that it was faked and didnt happen as reported. and Im seeing the other point of the story.I have the exact same chair to.Anyone can buy one for a dollar at a garage sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atinymonkey Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 The point is it's possible it was faked, but the evidence is not convincing or substantiated. The walls are a common colour; my Aunt has the same colour walls in her house in Cyprus. The chairs are common, the suit a random element and the elements of photo footage blurred. It's not outside the realms of possibility, but the dubious eyebrow has been activated. FEAR THE EYEBROW!!!!112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 They might have made the suit themselves. Or bought an orange shirt and pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted May 25, 2004 Author Share Posted May 25, 2004 In fact the whole video might be false and it was all computer generated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atinymonkey Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 No, your an MPEG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted May 25, 2004 Author Share Posted May 25, 2004 No, your[/b'] an MPEG. The point of this is??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atinymonkey Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 The same argument could be applied to anything. America doesn't exisit, the world was created last week etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted May 25, 2004 Author Share Posted May 25, 2004 The same argument could be applied to anything. America doesn't exisit, the world was created last week etc. Exactly thats the problam we dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glider Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 No, that's right, we can't know. We do not have direct experience of the event. But we do have belief and the weight of evidence (so far) suggests that this belief is justified. The points raised so far do not provide anywhere near equal justification for doubting that belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 See Glider, the critical mistake you made there was just saying "this belief", and not indicating which belief. £1 says the next poster assumes you are backing them up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glider Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 A good point, and well made. I won't take that bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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