Maqboole Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Hello i was working on my crousework on Thermodynamics of chemical engineering i would like to ask for help as i would be vevry appriciateable & other might benifi from it too the question is . Calculate the rate of hear transfer from vertical plate of side length 1m ,if its surface temperature is 500k & air flow by the plate due to natural convection,at a temperature of 300k. Data: For air viscosity ; 1.9x10^-5 kg m-1 s-1 specific heat capacity ;1.01 KJ kg-1 k-1 Cofficient of cubical expansion : 3.33x10^-3 k-1 Density ;1.165 kg m-3 thermal conductivity;0.0337 Wm-2 k-1 Gravity; 9.81s-2 For Lamimar flow: Nu = 0.59 [Gr.Pr]^0.25 For Turbulent Flow Nu=0.13 [Gr.Pr.]^0.33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPanic Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Normally, you first determine the Nusselt number, then you determine the heat transfer coefficient using the Nusselt number: [math]Nu=\frac{h\cdot{L}}{\lambda}[/math] But to determine Nu, you have to find out the Grashof (Gr) and Prandtl (Pr) numbers... First of all, your formula's and mine are different. My book says: [math]Nu=0.55(Gr\times{Pr})^{\frac{1}{4}}[/math] for [math]10^4<Gr\times{Pr}<10^8[/math] [math]Nu=0.13(Gr\times{Pr})^{\frac{1}{3}}[/math] for [math]Gr\times{Pr}>10^8[/math] It's funny that the coefficients 0.55 and 0.13 are different. But more important, we now know also that laminar and turbulent can be expressed in terms of Gr x Pr... and this should help you choose between the two. Wikipedia gives 3 formulas for the Grashof number (Gr), and this one seems good for you: [math]\mathrm{Gr_L} = \frac{g \beta (T_s - T_\infty ) L^3}{\nu ^2}[/math], for vertical flat plates. The Prandtl number is also straightforward (and you can sneak into wikipedia to see the formula): [math]\mathrm{Pr} = \frac{\nu}{\alpha} = \frac{\mbox{viscous diffusion rate}}{\mbox{thermal diffusion rate}} = \frac{c_p \mu}{k} [/math] So, now you have the heat transfer coefficient... which you use to calculate the overall heat transfer coefficient (I assume you know how to do that - hint: overall heat transfer coefficient often has symbol U, units [W/m2K], which is the same as the heat transfer coefficient). Also take into account that the air is heating up. Here I am really not so sure, but I'd use the log mean temperature difference as value. I hope that you can take if from there... and I hope that what I wrote is correct. Your problem is a tough one! Good luck with your studies! Heat and mass transfer are a b*tch, but oh so important. And once you've learned it a bit, you're a hero! Unfortunately, it's all empirical, so I had little choice other than post formulas... it's a little bit against the forum rules to help this much (I'm not sure though in this case - please post again if you know the answer from your teacher!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maqboole Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 first of all i would like to say my thank to CaptainPanic. In helping me in that question i would like to inform you that i did manage to calculate Gr & Pr .so i multiplied them & my answer came up as 3.08x10^9. What to do next now i am confused . yes i have the answer of the question answer is 1953 W. Can you help me Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPanic Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 So, now you have to use this formula: [math]Nu=0.13(Gr\times{Pr})^{\frac{1}{3}}[/math] because [math]Gr\times{Pr}>10^8 [/math]... ([math]Gr\times{Pr}=3.08\cdot{10^9} [/math]). Then you know Nu, and you can continue the way I explained. Sorry for not checking the entire answer now... I am not in the mood today for heat & mass transfer - I have my own problems today that I need to solve and they cost enough effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maqboole Posted April 19, 2009 Author Share Posted April 19, 2009 Thz a lot i did get the solution & i did it right.Thz a lot if you would like i can explain that to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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