Adam Posted January 28, 2003 Posted January 28, 2003 yup thats what i think. But this is probably a more reliable explanation: http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g146.htm
PogoC7 Posted January 28, 2003 Posted January 28, 2003 I'm in class now, so I'll keep it short. I do think we landed on the moon, but the idea that the United States staged the "First" moon landing is very complelling. I watched the Fox special on the moon landing. It's funny how video of that landing seen on sites like NASA or channels like discovery, differ from the videos/photos on the fox special. Even if we were the first to visit the moon (which is a great acomplishment), why would we ant to go back. There is nothing there for us. The main issue in space exploration should be mars and colonizing it. Even if the atmoshpere is uninhabitable now. If mars did have water and volcanic activities, caves under the surface should be many and humans can colonize these caves. *also, I just reg. last night and this is my first post. SHOW ME SOME LOVE*
JaKiri Posted January 28, 2003 Posted January 28, 2003 Originally posted by PogoC7 Well, if we can't get a perm colony on the moon, which is right next door, how are we going to do it on Mars?
PogoC7 Posted January 28, 2003 Posted January 28, 2003 The moon is a ball of dust, with no atmosphere. If we did colonize the moon it would be one of the biggest economical disasters in history. We would take all that money and loss it even before the project would be done. This is because the moon is constantly being bombarded by meteorites. Plus solar blast radiant waves from the sun would cause electrical problem and probably destroy any structures on the surface. The difference in colonizing mars is that mars used to have volcanic activity. If it did (which must be proven first), then there should be enormous underground tunnels (like ones found on earth). Plus, mars has an atmosphere which would keep us safe from outside forces like meteors, solar rays, and solar radiation. In the future, the moon would be a good waypoint for people traveling between earth and mars. Plus it’s unsafe to send astronauts to the moon because of the dangers and sun posses to them. If the sun blasted a solar ray towards the moon, the astronauts would only have about 10 min to escape. That would no happen. They would be dead. First, mars and neighboring masses. Then more study of the sun. Then light speed to the outer regions of our universe. Anyway, this isn’t a topic I’m very knowledge at, I just wanted to post my first message. If I’m wrong, I ask for FORGIVENESS.
Adam Posted January 28, 2003 Posted January 28, 2003 mars is much easier, it was once a habitant planet, inhabitated by aliens that did mining on it, all the water was drained, and there's still some water frozen in polar caps
Sayonara Posted January 28, 2003 Posted January 28, 2003 Originally posted by Adam mars is much easier, it was once a habitant planet, inhabitated by aliens that did mining on it, all the water was drained Source?
fafalone Posted January 28, 2003 Posted January 28, 2003 Originally posted by Sayonara³ Source? Does it really matter? You know he's a cretin.
Radical Edward Posted January 28, 2003 Posted January 28, 2003 Originally posted by Sayonara³ Source? His main source is commonly known as the anus.
Sayonara Posted January 29, 2003 Posted January 29, 2003 I want to see what webshite he pulls out of it, Rad.
PogoC7 Posted January 29, 2003 Posted January 29, 2003 This is a very dumb subject. We did put humans on the moon, but it makes no sence to because they are in big danger on the surface. The Sun is always spitting out Fatal radiation into space. If one is blasted towards the moon, the astronauts have about ten minutes before their insinerated. No reason to send people to the moon. Last moon misson; 1972*no sure, but close.
fafalone Posted January 29, 2003 Posted January 29, 2003 Space suits provide more protection from the suns radiation than the atmosphere does. They don't come back with sunburn from a 15 minute spacewalk, cant' say the same for southern beachgoers.
PogoC7 Posted January 29, 2003 Posted January 29, 2003 The Moon is 250,000 miles from Earth so it is beyond the protection of Earth's radiation belts and the radiation belts trap and INTENSIFY radiation particles, forcing Moon travelors to pass through this deadly region. Space shuttle astronauts on a rare orbit of 350 miles reported seeing flashes of radiation in their eyes with their eyelids shut. Even sustained orbits of Earth at 250 miles altitude can expose astronauts to a FATAL dose of radiation in a mere ONE (1) HOUR, not counting solar flares (1000 rem is equal to 150,000 chest X-rays! A 10-hour solar flare would exceed radiation from 1-Million chest x-rays. That's why space shuttles and space stations orbit well below that altitude. This is according to the following technical articles from the official NASA website and its Space Physics Textbook( http://www.oulu.fi/~spaceweb/textbook/ ). Relevant sections are highlighted in red. Therefore, NASA found it impossible to leave Earth orbit. Hence, the so-called Moon landings would have been faked with Hollywood technologies. Since Russia lacked these technologies, it defaulted to USA even though Russia was first to land an unmanned machine on the Moon.
PogoC7 Posted January 29, 2003 Posted January 29, 2003 fafalone: I have a good friend who also goes to UM and studying neruoscience. He is also the same age as you (83), so I just felt like saying that. His name is Ivan Dequsada. He has a extended jax and looks like a mad scientest.
PogoC7 Posted January 29, 2003 Posted January 29, 2003 I just read what you said over again and I understand now. He was born in 1983. No class of 83
JaKiri Posted January 29, 2003 Posted January 29, 2003 Originally posted by PogoC7 You can more easily put up shields on the moon than you can on Mars. Bear in mind that Mars has almost no atmosphere, as (afaik the current theory goes) it's getting ripped away by the solar wind because it hasn't got a magnetic enough core to deflect it. We know we can get to the moon. It's also much closer, meaning if there were unforseen problems then it would be much easier to fix. In addition, we're having trouble landing a mechanical Rover on Mars, let alone a human.
PogoC7 Posted January 29, 2003 Posted January 29, 2003 Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri You can more easily put up shields on the moon than you can on Mars. Bear in mind that Mars has almost no atmosphere, as (afaik the current theory goes) it's getting ripped away by the solar wind because it hasn't got a magnetic enough core to deflect it. We know we can get to the moon. It's also much closer, meaning if there were unforseen problems then it would be much easier to fix. In addition, we're having trouble landing a mechanical Rover on Mars, let alone a human. Yea, your right about the no atmosphere on mars. I should have remembered about that. But if we were going to make a decision on which to put more resources into, I think Mars would be a better decision. What benefits would we get going to the moon again. More research to explore Mars, more advances. Although, people would pay good amounts of money to visit the moon.
JaKiri Posted January 29, 2003 Posted January 29, 2003 The point I was making about the moon colony is that it would be a great help in making a martian colony; there is no need to have seperate resource allocations as the moon one would be a test bed.
mister_me Posted January 31, 2003 Posted January 31, 2003 Originally posted by P_Rog what's everyones view on the opollo moon landings? Did it really happen or did the gov't fake it all? It was staged, obviously.
aman Posted January 31, 2003 Posted January 31, 2003 All we need on the moon is to build a big underground cave, make it airtight, and fetch some of the H2O from the craters to generate O2 to fill the air space. It really is going to be pretty easy to start commercially developing it in the near future. Solar power, mineral resources, low gravity, and ice. A mining engineers dream shopping list. We just need to turn the space station into a heavy equipment factory to build a couple lunar back hoes and dozers. Just aman
the GardenGnome Posted February 4, 2003 Posted February 4, 2003 Originally posted by Adam the moon landing was staged obiously, but it was to insure the success of landing. The actual landing did take place, the flag and a moon buggy are on moon right now. There's a lot of conspiracy and secrets going on with the whole "Darkside" of the moon issue. So what was the tape that we saw of them landing on the moon. It had to be real the flag was not moving. But you say they had already made one, what makes you think that.? Just out of curiousity.
fafalone Posted February 4, 2003 Posted February 4, 2003 Just ignore the fool who chooses to occupy his mind with this kind of crap rather than actually using it.
the GardenGnome Posted February 4, 2003 Posted February 4, 2003 Originally posted by aman All we need on the moon is to build a big underground cave, make it airtight, and fetch some of the H2O from the craters to generate O2 to fill the air space. It really is going to be pretty easy to start commercially developing it in the near future. Solar power, mineral resources, low gravity, and ice. A mining engineers dream shopping list. We just need to turn the space station into a heavy equipment factory to build a couple lunar back hoes and dozers. Just aman I don't believe we should go and colonize other planets or moons in this case unless we all agree to take good care of it unlike our home Earth. It will be excellent for research though.
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