albertlee Posted June 2, 2004 Author Posted June 2, 2004 Ok, dave, Does'nt matter. You have helped me alot,..Thank you! Albert
PerpetualYnquisitive Posted June 2, 2004 Posted June 2, 2004 Yeah, I'll probably reformat some time soon. That "You've got trojans!" popup every half hour is another good reason for it. Your Windows "Messenger Service" is being used as a spam portal. Go here and get an app that turns that service off. http://www.grc.com/stm/shootthemessenger.htm As for the difference between Windows and Mac OS, they are both the "illegitimate children" of the old XEROX PARC system. Read the book "Fire In The Valley" by Paul Freiberger and Michael Swaine for all the dirt.
budullewraagh Posted June 2, 2004 Posted June 2, 2004 Mac OSX Panther owns all... unless you enjoy unix to a fault, in which case you should go for linux. example; a friend of mine can keep his powermac g3 (OSX Jaguar; panther is quite a bit better) on for weeks at a time without any difference in performance. it works well even with moderate to heavy usage. i can't keep my pc on for more than 8 hours without being forced to restart. after 3 hours of relatively heavy usage, the comp's performance decreases at a slightly exponential rate. to add to that, with OSX, programs never crash. also, macs are better for media work such as video editing, sound editing and photo editing.
swansont Posted June 2, 2004 Posted June 2, 2004 but macintosh computers are more expensive though... That's often overstating it, once you look carefully. Yes, a bare-bones PC is cheaper, but if you are going to get comparable hardware, the price isn't all that different. Several people have boasted to me how cheap their PC was, and then went on to tell me about the good sound card, video card and CD burner they added, without having taken the cost into account. And those are things that were already on the 'expensive' mac. The last PC I bought at work was a few hundred $$ more expensive than the Mac I have at home, because I actually included those extras ahead of time (and it wasn't my money).
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted June 2, 2004 Posted June 2, 2004 I don't know many other operating systems that can stay up for >1 year without suffering some kind of memory leak somewhere and dying like XP does to me on a fairly regular basis. That has NEVER happened to me. NEVER. The only problems I have are the programs, but that's not XP's fault. What type of computer do you have?
albertlee Posted June 3, 2004 Author Posted June 3, 2004 As far as I am aware, beside RISC on mac, why is bsd kernel/Unix so stable? Albert
Crash Posted June 3, 2004 Posted June 3, 2004 Windows 2003 is a server' date=' not a workstation if I remember correctly. Mac OS is better than windows for a lot of reasons, but it very much depends on what you want to use your computer for. If you just want a regular home pc, stick with XP. If you want to use your computer as a graphical design workstation then it might be an idea to look at Mac OS as an alternative.[/quote'] Is XP better than Mac for everyday use? i have never used a mac although i have seen screen shots of Mac OS X, DO they handle the same tasks alright? i hear macs better for design of which i do some of (usually in Byrce 5.0) are they really that much better?
admiral_ju00 Posted June 3, 2004 Posted June 3, 2004 Is XP better than Mac for everyday use? i have never used a mac although i have seen screen shots of Mac OS X' date=' DO they handle the same tasks alright? i hear macs better for design of which i do some of (usually in Byrce 5.0) are they really that much better?[/quote'] yes, and especially when compared to graphics and media, macs are superb. one of my hobbies is drawing, well at this time learning to draw, but anyway, i know a few professional artists who've made the transition to macs and they absolutely loved it. even though things like photoshop is available for both macs and pc's, they all are now religious mac users when it comes to art. as far as every day use, pc's would be better. and something like mac or a spark, reserved for special use. If you just want a regular home pc, stick with XP. If you want to use your computer as a graphical design workstation then it might be an idea to look at Mac OS as an alternative. mac or if one can be afforded, an sgi will do much, much better but oh well, i can still dream, eh? hehe
Sayonara Posted June 3, 2004 Posted June 3, 2004 Is XP better than Mac for everyday use? i have never used a mac although i have seen screen shots of Mac OS X, DO they handle the same tasks alright? Mac OSX is better than XP, but probably not so much that the average Windows user is going to want to shell out for a new computer and learn a whole new operating system, as well as saying goodbye to half the software they are already accustomed to using. i hear macs better for design of which i do some of (usually in Byrce 5.0) are they really that much better? Yes. I think it's a combination of the tools available and more intuitive workflows.
Dave Posted June 3, 2004 Posted June 3, 2004 Mac OSX is better than XP, but probably not so much that the average Windows user is going to want to shell out for a new computer and[/i'] learn a whole new operating system, as well as saying goodbye to half the software they are already accustomed to using. True; but a lot of home users don't usually have all that much software installed on them (or it's just software they've downloaded from the net). Apple is pinching quite a few people from this market recently because of nice products like the iMac with the tilting screen, and the iPod is certainly drawing a few people over as well.
albertlee Posted June 3, 2004 Author Posted June 3, 2004 Again, As far as I am aware, beside RISC on mac, why is bsd kernel/Unix so stable? Secondly, Can we install Windows Xp on Mac machine? Albert
Dave Posted June 3, 2004 Posted June 3, 2004 1) BSD kernel is stable because it's undergone so much testing and it's a very stable codebase. 2) You can't install XP on a Mac natively, you have to run it under emulation which is quite slow.
albertlee Posted June 3, 2004 Author Posted June 3, 2004 Why... , dave? Does not Xp support Mac's hardware? since mac's hardware is good enough to withstand Xp........ Albert
Dave Posted June 3, 2004 Posted June 3, 2004 Er, no. Because the architecture of the Mac's PowerPC processor is fundamentally different to that of the x86 processors.
albertlee Posted June 3, 2004 Author Posted June 3, 2004 So, dave, since Mac is stable, but it has less programs compatible with it..... then, if I want to use Visual Basic, but how can I install it? Albert
Dave Posted June 3, 2004 Posted June 3, 2004 You use a PC. Or you run windows under emulation and install vb onto it, running it in an emulated environment.
albertlee Posted June 3, 2004 Author Posted June 3, 2004 ok, as to here, the only advantage for macintosh is the stability and designing...... so, we cannot program like C, java, vb under Macintosh.....right? Albert
Dave Posted June 3, 2004 Posted June 3, 2004 There are C/C++ compilers for Mac. Mac OS X uses a derivative of Objective-C called Cocoa, which is a very nice language. It has other advantages as well, listed above in the thread.
albertlee Posted June 3, 2004 Author Posted June 3, 2004 I think the diadvantage of mac is that it does have many variety of functions/programs we can use, though..........;-) Albert
Dave Posted June 3, 2004 Posted June 3, 2004 No, the choice of programs is small compared to the PC, but there's lots of shareware/freeware stuff as well.
albertlee Posted June 3, 2004 Author Posted June 3, 2004 dave, what is the executable file type in Mac? like in Windows, it is .exe Albert
albertlee Posted June 3, 2004 Author Posted June 3, 2004 As far as I am aware, the only advantage for Xp is that it has many compatible software, and it is good for palying games..... So, why Mac is not ideal for playing games? Albert
Dave Posted June 3, 2004 Posted June 3, 2004 It's not that it isn't ideal for playing games, it's just games developers can sell more games for PC because more people use PCs than Macs.
albertlee Posted June 3, 2004 Author Posted June 3, 2004 Since PC is not as ideal as Mac, then, critically, why many people still like to use Bill Gates's Microsoft Windows and products? Albert
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