Simpleton Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Energy equals Mass. Does that specifically excludes Mass without Energy. (like dark matter) Please and Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 You might have meant that [math]E \propto M[/math], or "energy is proportional to mass". Energy doesn't equal mass. Not here, not in any fantasy world. [math]E=mc^2[/math]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timo Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Energy equals Mass. Not really Does that specifically excludes Mass without Energy. Since mass is a form of energy, you cannot have mass without energy. (like dark matter) ??? Dark matter is considered having mass. You might have meant that [math]E \propto M[/math], or "energy is proportional to mass". Energy doesn't equal mass. Not here, not in any fantasy world. [math]E=mc^2[/math]. Personally, I often consider things that are directly proportional (with the proportionality constant being a natural constant, not something like F and a in F=ma) as being the same thing measured in different units. In fact, particle physics even uses units where your E=mc² would read E=m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpleton Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share Posted June 5, 2009 You might have meant that [math]E \propto M[/math], or "energy is proportional to mass". Energy doesn't equal mass. Not here, not in any fantasy world. [math]E=mc^2[/math]. Does the electron not imply that Energy may be treated as a flexible quantity in at least some particles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpleton Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 Not really Since mass is a form of energy, you cannot have mass without energy. So sorry, I did not mention that I meant to exclude the energy that is produced by the distraction of a particle, as well as the energy given to a particle by a push. ??? Dark matter is considered having mass. Forgot where, but there was an article where an area deemed to be full of dark mater was used for gravitational lensing. Personally, I often consider things that are directly proportional (with the proportionality constant being a natural constant, not something like F and a in F=ma) as being the same thing measured in different units. In fact, particle physics even uses units where your E=mc² would read E=m. I much appreciate your kind anwers. I did not mind shadows. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Personally, I often consider things that are directly proportional (with the proportionality constant being a natural constant, not something like F and a in F=ma) as being the same thing measured in different units. In fact, particle physics even uses units where your E=mc² would read E=m. That's interesting, never knew that. Does the electron not imply that Energy may be treated as a flexible quantity in at least some particles? It very well might, I'm no expert in this matter. But how does it concern what I wrote? Even if energy is flexible, it still doesn't equal mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Does the electron not imply that Energy may be treated as a flexible quantity in at least some particles? How so? The electron's rest mass is a constant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpleton Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 How so? The electron's rest mass is a constant. Please excuse my poor wording in what I am locking for and what I am trying to understand. The energy of an electron changes as it lights a bulb. Does that not show flexibility of energy content? I have no problem with the rest mass of a particle staying the same, even if some particles don't hold still and some do. I appriciate all the help I can get. Thank You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Please excuse my poor wording in what I am locking for and what I am trying to understand.The energy of an electron changes as it lights a bulb. Does that not show flexibility of energy content? I have no problem with the rest mass of a particle staying the same, even if some particles don't hold still and some do. I appriciate all the help I can get. Thank You. Any particle can have kinetic energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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