DJBruce Posted August 10, 2009 Posted August 10, 2009 (edited) As I worked on teaching my self calculus this summer I begin to wonder how to write a generic formula for the nth derivative of a equation of the form: [math]y=x^{a}[/math] [math]where: a\geq 1[/math] After thinking about it the pattern became obvious, but the proof took me a while to work out, in the end I came up with an inductive proof. Below is the proof I came up with. [math]Basis:[/math] [math]\frac{d^{n}y}{dx^{n}}=\left(\frac{a!}{(a-n)!}\right)x^{(a-n)}[/math] [math]Let: n=1[/math] [math]\frac{d^{1}y}{dx^{1}}=\left(\frac{a!}{(a-1)!}\right)x^{(a-1)}=ax^{(a-1)}[/math] This step is verified because I came to the form proven by the Power Rule. [math]Inductive: Let: n=(n+1)[/math] [math]\bullet \left(\frac{d^{(n+1)}y}{dx^{(n+1)}}\right)= \frac{dy}{dx}\left(\frac{d^{n}y}{dx^{n}}\right)=[/math] [math]\bullet \frac{dy}{dx}\left(\left(\frac{a!}{(a-n)!}\right)x^{(a-n)}\right)= [/math] Substitution [math]\bullet \left(\left(\frac{(a!)(a-n)}{(a-n)!}\right)x^{(a-n-1)}\right)= [/math] Power Rule [math]\bullet \left(\left(\frac{(a!)(a-n)}{\left((a-n)(a-n-1)(a-n-2)...(1)\right)}\right)x^{(a-n-1)}\right)= [/math] Definition of Factorial [math]\bullet \left(\left(\frac{(a!)}{\left((a-n-1)(a-n-2)...(1)\right)}\right)x^{(a-n-1)}\right)=[/math] Cancellation [math]\bullet \left(\left(\frac{(a!)}{((a-(n+1))!}\right)x^{(a-n-1)}\right)=[/math] Definition of Factorial and Factoring [math]\bullet \left(\left(\frac{(a!)}{\left((a-(n+1))!\right)}\right)x^{(a-(n+1))}\right) [/math] Factoring [math]So[/math] [math]\bullet \frac{d^{n}y}{dx^{n}}=\left(\frac{a!}{(a-n)!}\right)x^{(a-n)}[/math] I was wondering if my proof is correct and if it would be considered rigorous. Any correction or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Edited August 10, 2009 by DJBruce
Xittenn Posted August 10, 2009 Posted August 10, 2009 When n is greater than a the resulting factorial is undefined! 1
DJBruce Posted August 10, 2009 Author Posted August 10, 2009 When n is greater than a the resulting factorial is undefined! Yes, you pointed this out to me last night so I will qualify the proof by stating: [math]n \leq a [/math], but if [math] n=a [/math] then you are going to get: [math] \frac{a!}{0!}x^{0}=a! [/math] so if get a constant this means the next derivative should be zero, so I don't think it is that large of a flaw.
timo Posted August 10, 2009 Posted August 10, 2009 - Perhaps that's exactly what you wanted to avoid, but I find [math] \frac{a!}{(a-n)!} [/math] a rather obscuring way to write [math]\prod_{k=a-n+1}^{a}k[/math] or simply "product of all integers from a down to a-n+1". Also, the factorials don't work for negative exponents. - Way too many parentheses for my taste. - Actually, you can see the problems with n>=a directly from your proof if you properly catch the division by zero in the step you called "cancellation". - The correct notation (your steps were fine just what you wrote down is not according to standard syntax) for your first step is [math] \frac{d^{n+1}y}{dx^{n+1}}= \frac{d}{dx}\left(\frac{d^{n}y}{dx^{n}}\right)[/math]. What you wrote would mean [math] y' \cdot \left(\frac{d^{n}y}{dx^{n}}\right)[/math] - Apart from the division by zero and the notation mistake that's a nice, simple, correct and nicely presented (perhaps a few too many steps for my personal taste) proof by induction. 1
DJBruce Posted August 10, 2009 Author Posted August 10, 2009 - Perhaps that's exactly what you wanted to avoid, but I find [math] \frac{a!}{(a-n)!} [/math] a rather obscuring way to write [math]\prod_{k=a-n+1}^{a}k[/math] or simply "product of all integers from a down to a-n+1". Also, the factorials don't work for negative exponents. I have never actually seen that notation, before what exactly is that called? I realized the factorials do not work with negative exponents so that's why I put the restriction that the exponent must be greater than or equal to one. - Actually, you can see the problems with n>=a directly from your proof if you properly catch the division by zero in the step you called "cancellation". So what your saying is because when n=a you get: [math]\left(\frac{(a!)(0)}{(0!)(0)}\right)x^{0}=\frac{0}{0}[/math] that I should actually restrict this to [math]n< a[/math]. Thank you for taking the time to read my proof, your corrections and opinions are greatly appreciated.
timo Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 I have never actually seen that notation, before what exactly is that called? Dunno. I call it "product". It's the multiplication version of the sum sign, so [math] \sum_{X=a}^b X = a + (a+1) + \dots + b [/math] and [math] \prod_{X=a}^b X= a \cdot (a+1) \cdot \dots \cdot b [/math] X, a and b can of course be any integer-valued expression, i.e. a number, a variable or a term. And as always, someone wrote something in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplication#Capital_pi_notation So what your saying is because when n=a you get:[math]\left(\frac{(a!)(0)}{(0!)(0)}\right)x^{0}=\frac{0}{0}[/math] that I should actually restrict this to [math]n< a[/math]. Something in that direction, yes (I do not fully understand your question). But looking at it a 2nd time you'd have to catch the error one step further ahead in the "definition of the factorial" step. When a=n, then (a-n)! = (a-n)*(a-n-1)* ... * (1) does not hold true anymore. 0! is 1, not 0*...*1. For your proof that would mean the following: - You have proven that for n=1, your expression works. - You have proven that if your expression works for n=x, then it also works for n=x+1 - if x is smaller than a. => So rather than the usual conclusion that your expression is correct for all n>1 you now can say that your expression is correct for all n from 1 to a.
Xittenn Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) misread statement delete post.......thank you! [Edit] here I'll make myself useful....... Empty Product Edited August 11, 2009 by buttacup
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