bascule Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 So much for that spirit of bipartisan cooperation: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/19/health/policy/19repubs.html?_r=4&hp The Democrats seem to be sick of dealing with Republican opposition to healthcare reform, and are set to go it alone. My opinion is: about time! What do you think?
iNow Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) The link asked for me to register. I was able to get to it here, though: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/19/health/policy/19repubs.html?_r=1&ref=health Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedI think there are still too many right-leaning democrats in the Senate, and that too many are still against a public option. I think they are too dissembled within the party to get what we want done... done. While they have the votes, I don't think they have the agreement. We'll see, eh? Edited August 19, 2009 by iNow Consecutive posts merged.
The Bear's Key Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 The article had an omission. Fixed it, though The officials said the White House hoped to make the case to the American people that it was Republicans who had abandoned the effort at bipartisanship. Republicans countered by saying that they simply opposed the legislation and that the public outcry stoked by Republican falsifications -- in a pre-calculated effort -- so later on they can pretend it had validated their view and solidified their opposition... . ....so Dems just gotta improve their lying and manufacturing public outcries in advance. Coordinated with a supposed "duty" to follow the misled public's will. You know, basic Politics 101 -- easy Rove stuff here, get with the program Dems.
Pangloss Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 So much for that spirit of bipartisan cooperation: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/19/health/policy/19repubs.html?_r=4&hp The Democrats seem to be sick of dealing with Republican opposition to healthcare reform, and are set to go it alone. My opinion is: about time! What do you think? What I think is that because of their majority bipartisanship was never required, it was not the reason GOP cooperation was sought, and its failure is not the reason why the current initiatives have stalled. iNow has it right, though I disagree with his conclusion. When the right came to power it was with the support of centrists and moderates. The reason the right failed to maintain control is that it discarded the moderates in order to react poorly to Iraq and tackle social-conservative causes. The center bailed to the Democratic party, which is now desperately trying to repeat that error. That's okay. Centrists and moderates are prepared to deliver the same lesson to the left. We're a pragmatic lot.
bascule Posted August 20, 2009 Author Posted August 20, 2009 Anything done without bipartisan cooperation is doomed to piss off moderates? I seem to recall Republicans remaining in power for 3 years after the invasion of Iraq.
Mokele Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 It's also worth noting that over 60% of Americans favor both reform *and* the public option specifically. With 60%+ support on this issue, I'd love to see who gets 'taught a lesson' next election.
Pangloss Posted August 21, 2009 Posted August 21, 2009 Anything done without bipartisan cooperation is doomed to piss off moderates? No.
devrimci_kürt Posted August 21, 2009 Posted August 21, 2009 The Democrats seem to be sick of dealing with Republican opposition to healthcare reform, and are set to go it alone. The Democrats and the Republicans wisely in turkey(in anatolia) 1-Democrats 2-Republicans 3-Communists 4-Social Democratic Populist Parties 5-Nationalist 6-hawkish nationalist 7-Nationalist and devout 8-liberal ...........and so on healthcare reform ?:D:D who know
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