Guest ALiEN509 Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Is a reaction possible with the reactants H20+CO2+N2 and the product a solid precipitate and O2, given the chemical equation is balanced ? I've been looking at organic chemistry and notice that there are different, more complex reaction types to form organic compounds. If this reaction is possible why would people use the more complex reaction processes in organic chemistry to achieve the same product? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budullewraagh Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 you need to provide more details. you speak of a precipitate but you didnt mention the states of the H2O, CO2 and N2. if this was an aqueous solution, the H2O wouldn't be a reactant. is the H2O (l) or (g)? balancing the equation has nothing to do with the probability of a reaction. balancing is just writing the proportion of reactants and products out on paper. you really need to edit that post because i have no idea what youre talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ALiEN509 Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Ok to get a bit more detailed all the reactants would be in the Gas state. The product would be a solid precipitate containing carbon hydrogen and nitrogen. Oxygen would be the second side product of the reaction. My question comes from seeing chemical synthesis where reduction and substitution are implemented on an already established compound to form another compound. Question: Is there a huge difference between the synthesis of organic compounds compared to the synthesis of in-organic compounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budullewraagh Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 yes......different products are yielded......organic reactions are slow usually and generally require a catalyst such as conc 18 molar H2SO4. you had me confused before. the term "precipitate" is used when you're speaking of reactants that are aqueous and you have a product that is an insoluble (at that temp) solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skye Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Is a reaction possible with the reactants H20+CO2+N2 and the product a solid precipitate and O2, given the chemical equation is balanced ? I've been looking at organic chemistry and notice that there are different, more complex reaction types to form organic compounds. If this reaction is possible why would people use the more complex reaction processes in organic chemistry to achieve the same product? The thing is that you haven't actually given a product. Organic chemists want a product, and a specific product at that. Also, making carbon dioxide react to form organic compounds takes alot of energy. It's not worth the time, energy or money. It would be nice if it were (and many chemists are trying to find efficient means of doing it) but it's much easier to modify compounds that are already formed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apathy Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 are you talking about photosynthesis (carbon fixation) and nitrogen fixation in plants and bacteria, respectively? and the possibilty of artificially duplicating them? these are tough nuts to crack, don't worry, folks are working on them. http://www.honors.sbc.edu/HJSpecial_Iss04/NCrowder.htm reducing CO2 is tough: a typical way to take it to CO is the water-gas-shift, which can go either way depending on the catalyst H20 + CO <-> H2 + CO2 actually, a typical way to start building up organic compounds starts with coal (or nat. gas) that can be converted with air and steam to "syn gas" (synthesis gas) which is pretty much 1:1 CO/H2. This is can be converted to alcohols and even alkanes, etc. by Fischer-Tropsch reactions. Ah! HERE is a nice description. reducing N2 is even tougher both take a lot of energy, N2 taking more (look up- Haber process) ANYWAY, i hope i cleared up ... uh something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ALiEN509 Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 Ok I think my question has been answered.Thanks very much for the info, everyone's input is greatly appreciated. High activation energy requirements are depressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 HCN or Ammonium Carbonate are 2 possible products, but as stated above, it`s just pure guesswork based on compounds that contain these elements, I`m sure there are others too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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