zebra Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 How do I calculate the 'potential?' resistance in a tube, in cm H2O. I'm a physiotherapist and do positive expiratory pressure breathing exercises with lung patients. Problem, the PEP masks are quite expensive, so we make 'blow bottles' - simply a 1 litre bottle, half filled with water (about 10 cm), with a nice thick (about 1 cm diameter) silicone tubing of about 20 cm, through which the patient blows into the water to make it bubble. Another problem - blowing into the water retains the lung pathogens in the water where they can proliferate. I'd like to use the straw as it is to avoid a contamination source, but would like to know what resistance it will give during expiration. If I have a formula, I can use thinner straws or simply make them longer/shorter for +- specific requirements. (I realise the speed of expiration will also play a role in the resistance.) The resistance we're looking for is from 7 - 30 cm H2O. Thanks!
insane_alien Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 well, its not likely to be that high, and your right, it does vary with the speed of exhalation so i'd suggest putting a small clamp on the tube and adjust as necessary.
CaptainPanic Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 This is easiest done experimentally. The calculations of the resistance ("pressure drop" is a better term) on a straw with a clamp, and most likely some corners aren't very easy. In addition, the pressure drop is dependent on how hard you blow. What's important is the Reynolds number. Let's see: Flow = 2 liters / s = 0.002 m3/s - that's just an estimated value, dependent on the patient. Cross-sectional area of a 1 cm tube = 3.14*0.005^2 = 7.85E-5 m2 Therefore the velocity in the straw is 25 m/s. Reynolds (Re) = density*velocity*diameter / viscosity = 1.2 * 25 * 0.01 / 0.001 = 300 That should be a laminar flow. The thinner straw has a flow 4 times higher since it's about twice as thin. That makes the flow turbulent (flows generally become turbulent at about Re > 1000). That will greatly increase the "resistance" (pressure drop). I am sorry that I am not in the mood to calculate the pressure drop in a theoretical case. Perhaps later (but no guarantees).
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