CrazCo Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 e^x+e^-x=3 i tried xlne+-xlne=ln3 x(1)+-x(1) = ln3 x-x = ln3 but that doesn't work btw the answer is +- 0.96
Bignose Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 have you learned about the hyperbolic trig functions yet?
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 If you have this: [math]e^x + e^{-x} = 3[/math] taking the natural log of both sides gives you this: [math]\ln (e^x + e^{-x}) = \ln 3[/math] not what you wrote above. See what you can do using the properties of logarithms to tease x out of there.
CrazCo Posted September 30, 2009 Author Posted September 30, 2009 tbh i have never seen anything like that.
D H Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 [math]\ln (e^x + e^{-x}) = \ln 3[/math] See what you can do using the properties of logarithms to tease x out of there. There is no teasing that x out of there. Bignose suggestion to look into the hyperbolic functions is exactly right.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 Indeed. I just realized the method I had done quickly before breaks a few rules as well... but it does give me an answer of 0.97, which is confusingly close.
ed84c Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 My suggestion would be first to multiply through by e^x and move everything to one side (ie. you get ...... = 0). Then take a leap of faith as this this is a very similar function to solve to some you have been solving for years. (Hint: The answer to these is often = +/- .... likeyou have there)
D H Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 My suggestion would be first to multiply through by e^x and move everything to one side (ie. you get ...... = 0). Then take a leap of faith as this this is a very similar function to solve to some you have been solving for years. (Hint: The answer to these is often = +/- .... likeyou have there) Yep. That will do, also, and that is probably what is wanted for this (what appears to be homework) problem. Of course saying acosh(1.5) is much easier.
ed84c Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 Yup true. And I guess even if homework Qs arelooking for use of hyperbolics, it could be good practice to do it the long way round as you end up effectively deriving the equation for acosh,
D H Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 The hint ed84c gave is a bit cryptic (and appropriately so). Several hours have passed. A bit less cryptically, the idea is the solve for [math]e^x[/math]. Set [math]u=e^x[/math]. The equation in the original post becomes [math]u+1/u=3[/math]. Now multiply both sides by u. What kind of equation results from this?
CrazCo Posted October 1, 2009 Author Posted October 1, 2009 LIKE THIS? e^x + 1/e^x = 3 e^2x -3(e^x)+1=0 Assume A = e^x A^2 - 3A + 1 = 0 Quadratic Formula 3+- sqrt 9-4/2 = A 3+- sqrt5/2 = A Replace 3+sqrt5/2 = e^x x = ln(3+sqrt5/2) = .96 X = ln(3-sqrt5/2) = -.96 im proud i got it!!!!
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