Shadow Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 I just tried plotting [math]1^{\frac{1}{x-0.5}}[/math] in WolframAlpha, thinking a spike function would result. Instead, I got a straight line which was defined at 0.5. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot+1^1%2F%28x-0.5%29 Is it a plotting error on their side, or is [math]1^{\frac{1}{0}}[/math] defined??
timo Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Possibly neither. You cannot plot all the infinite pairs (x,y=f(x)) in an interval but only a few. If the program just draws the function value at some roughly equidistant points x_i, then there's a chance that none of them equals 0.5. Btw.: There is no reason to assume a spike shape. Your function is one everywhere except at x=0.5 where it is not defined -> no non-zero slope anywhere. Edit: Corrected x=0 to x=0.5
Shadow Posted October 15, 2009 Author Posted October 15, 2009 Well certainly a possibility, but it won't explain this: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1^1%2Fx+for+x%3D0 I think it's a problem on their side. As for the spike part, you're right of course. I keep treating 1/0 as infinity.
timo Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 (edited) It's even worse: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1%2Fx+for+x%3D0 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=-1%2Fx+for+x%3D0 To explain why I consider that even worse: 1 is the correct limit for 1^(1/x) when x goes to zero. So the function is not defined there but at least the limit exists. In contrast, the limit of 1/x when x->0 does not exist and can as well be the negative of the value claimed by alpha when zero is approached from the left, i.e. when approaching zero from the negative values. Funny that my links get cast into an [ url] ... [ /url] box automatically. EDIT: Clarified "from the left". Edited October 15, 2009 by timo
Shadow Posted October 15, 2009 Author Posted October 15, 2009 The limit of 1/x as x -> 0 doesn't exist? I know 1/0 isn't defined, but I though that the limit is infinity...?
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Positive or negative. It depends on which way you approach 0 from. So the limit in general is undefined.
Shadow Posted October 16, 2009 Author Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) Oh I see. Thanks, good to know. EDIT: By the way, it calculates the limit correctly: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=lim%201%2Fx%20x-%3E%200&t=ff3tb01 Edited October 16, 2009 by Shadow
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now