Matzi Posted December 28, 2002 Posted December 28, 2002 I suppose you all have heard that some sect in the US announced that the first cloned human has been born. 1. Do think that the baby was really born? 2. What do you think about the first cloned human? Do you see any ethical problems?
Radical Edward Posted December 28, 2002 Posted December 28, 2002 not likely... have you seen the people who claimed to have don it?
Matzi Posted December 28, 2002 Author Posted December 28, 2002 Some pictures in the newspaper or the internet but, I have to admit, I have not really informed myself in detail about what the media broadcast. I think it's very unlikely as well.
aman Posted December 29, 2002 Posted December 29, 2002 It is possible with existing technology but is not anywhere near perfected. The ethics of intentionally creating a shorter living and handicapped baby into the world just because we can is frowned against by me at least. If it happens naturally, so be it, but intentionally is cruel. No clone so far has been as good as the original and it starts to really show as time passes. Just aman
NSX Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 Originally posted by aman No clone so far has been as good as the original and it starts to really show as time passes. That remains to be seen; there could be some secret class of superpeople being used as an army or somewhere along those lines being developed by a government somewhere...
Guest lilbabynushi Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 Hey, i heard that the mother of the cloned baby was in Amsterdam.But i really don't think the baby has been born.The genetic research firms have been spreading false tales in order to get media's attention.There's a precadement going on between Catholics and these scientists about whether or not cloning is against human morals and ethics.
fafalone Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 Blatant hoax. I vote for a constitutional amendant to establish the separation between between state and science, even though it should be already covered with church and state, since the state is the church when it comes to science.
Sayonara Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 Can we please have a "1 strike and you're out" rule for the use of the phrase "..I heard that..." anywhere on the boards? People who can't use Google to demonstrate a point are clearly subhuman and have no rights. (j/k lilbabynushi - welcome to the boards )
the GardenGnome Posted February 27, 2003 Posted February 27, 2003 Originally posted by Matzi I suppose you all have heard that some sect in the US announced that the first cloned human has been born. 1. Do think that the baby was really born? 2. What do you think about the first cloned human? Do you see any ethical problems? Actually in was a sect in in Canada, to be specific in Quebec. There called the Realiens leaded by ofcource Real. And no the baby was not born, it is just a scam for attention. Unless the one that was "cloned" just gave birth to twins. (It's the same thing)
creature Posted March 13, 2004 Posted March 13, 2004 This sect has a book too. "....after reading this book......you will see how paradise can be acheived through human cloning......." I don't believe it. They didn't back their claims up by any evidence, and if you really wanted to "protect the mother" you wouldn't announce the fact that you'd cloned a human!
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted March 13, 2004 Posted March 13, 2004 Wouldn't they show the baby? FAKE!!!!!!!!!
Neurocomp2003 Posted March 13, 2004 Posted March 13, 2004 no...i think there was a recently cloned human baby that is different from the "one" in Quebec.
DeoxyriboNucleicAcid Posted March 13, 2004 Posted March 13, 2004 yes, I think it was in korea or some other place
-Demosthenes- Posted March 15, 2004 Posted March 15, 2004 I don't think it matters much, it's all fake. I promise that no human will ever be cloned.
DeoxyriboNucleicAcid Posted March 15, 2004 Posted March 15, 2004 It is perfectly possible to clone a human, and i have infact seen many documentaries on it, stating that the process is not very complex. It is only a matter of moral principles that prevents human cloning. Quite frankly, i feel that these darn moral principles are holding us back!!!;-)
-Demosthenes- Posted March 16, 2004 Posted March 16, 2004 Holding back! That is so TRUE. Holding us back from destroying and twisting human life in the name of science. It holds us back like a rope, like a rope it holds up from falling into maddness!!
DeoxyriboNucleicAcid Posted March 16, 2004 Posted March 16, 2004 It is a matter of opinion, weather cloning is a good or bad idea. We have cloned other animals, sometimes with devistating efftects on them. It woud make no difference if you cloned a human and killed it. YOU MAY TRY to argue that this is all wrong, but killing a human occurs much every day. It maked no difference other than an advance in science to kill a human while cloning it. The world will still spin. Even if we fail, we shall know what not to do. Emotion cannot stop us!
Radical Edward Posted March 16, 2004 Posted March 16, 2004 -Demosthenes- said in post # :I don't think it matters much, it's all fake. I promise that no human will ever be cloned. are you saying that identical twins do not exist?
Neurocomp2003 Posted March 16, 2004 Posted March 16, 2004 cloning is a moral issue. Its like harvesting organs in animals...should that be allowed? The issue has its good points and bad point and frm a nonscientific standpoint most people think its bad.
Sayonara Posted March 16, 2004 Posted March 16, 2004 But then most people don't understand it as a practice, or indeed why it might be needed at all.
-Demosthenes- Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 Radical Edward said in post #18 : are you saying that identical twins do not exist? You aren't suggesting that every time twins are born that someone cloned one of them are you?
Sayonara Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 He's saying if human biology can do it, it's only a matter of time before we can duplicate that process.
Sayonara Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 Well that wasn't EXACTLY what he said, but it's what he implied. He was assuming a certain degree of savvy, I suspect.
alt_f13 Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 We should invent some sort of biological stemcell machine using almost human DNA. That is one thing I don't understand: people not backing stem cell research. It is the single most viable source for most cures to ailments that impact us greatly right now. Cancer, alsheimers, and indeed baldness, will be cured 10-15 years from now through the use of stem cells. I back stem cell research 100%, and if cloning technology contributes to that in the near future, so much the better.
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