Mother, baby attacked on Paris train after mistaken for Jews

[Dreamer]

VERSAILLES, France - A young woman and her baby were attacked in a suburban train near Paris on Saturday by unidentified men who drew swastikas on her stomach with a pen in what police said was an anti-Semitic assault.

The six attackers who were armed with knives clipped the 23-year-old woman's hair, and cut her t-shirt and pants before drawing three swastikas on her body.

 

The men of North African origin also overturned the pram with her baby of 13 months.

 

In the attack they robbed her backpack which contained her identity papers, a bank card and 200 euros ($250).

 

Police said the attackers erroneously assumed the woman was Jewish because she was living in Paris' posh 16th district.

 

"Only Jews live in the 16th district," one of the men was quoted as having said.

 

French President Jacques Chirac expressed his horror and condemned what he called "a shameful attack."

 

The perpetrators must be found, held accountable and condemned with the full severity of the law, a statement issued by his office said.

 

French Interior Minister Dominique de Villepin asked police to find the attackers within the shortest possible time, his ministry said in a statement.

 

The attack was "all the more serious because it was marked by racism and anti-Semitism," he said.

[Phi for All]

Conclusion: Racists are stupid.

[Aardvark]

Worse than the attack was the fact that there were witnesses and no one did anything.

 

You expect racist thugs to be mindless and brutal, when ordinary people acquiese it's time to be scared (and angry).

[atinymonkey]

If there are 6 men with knives and your on the outskirts of Paris, you keep your head down.

[Aardvark]

Or call the police. The BBC reports that no passengers did anything. A shameful passivity and abdication of moral responsibility.

[Dreamer]

In china they raped a girl in a bus and 40 passengers did nothing

[bloodhound]

are u sure they werent doing anything?

[Aardvark]

That's what the French authorites and all the news outlets say. The other passengers did absolutely nothing.

[Phi for All]

In The Tipping Point, the author mentions a few incidents where someone was being attacked and multiple witnesses did nothing. It seems that there must be a certain number of witnesses before help is forthcoming. Too few and the attackers outnumber them. Too many and everyone assumes someone else will step in, so no one does.

 

In the US, we've had three years to think about how heroic we'd be if someone tried to hijack a plane we were on. I don't think a dozen guys with bazookas would stand a chance. If it were on an airplane. And they looked like terrorists. And we were sure they were going to kill us all anyway.

[[Tycho?]]

There were 6 attackers with knives? I can see why nobody did anything, they were all scared. Still, man, I hate that racist garbage.

[Aardvark]

Even if they were scared they could have tried calling for help, calling the police or the train driver, perhaps pulling the emergency stop cord, anything but stand back and watch.

 

Maybe they didnt really care that someone they thought was a Jew was being attacked?

[Phi for All]

There are so many unknowns here. Who were the other passengers, able-bodied young suburbanites or elderly pensioners? Were there 10 or 50? How did the perpetrators know the young woman was from the 16th district before they stole her papers? What does a North African look like?

 

Of course, none of the answers would excuse these North African, neo-Nazi, pram-tipping, mugger/barber/body artists. They still sound like a pack of stupid racist thugs.

[Dreamer]

I think a lot of arabs are being angry because how Jews in various positions treat them. It's no secret that the war on Iraq, Afghanistan was masterminded by people who were mostly Jewish and that is no secret to anyone since it was even published in Israeli newspaper "Yediot Ahronot". Of course, there is also the thing with Israel which causes all these feelings. But what is amazing is that muslims are murdering countless blacks in Africa each week just because they are christian, and nobody even hears of it! It's somewhere on page, uhm, 59? People like to blame America, Jews for everthing when the fact is that these arabs are responsible for a larger portion of world problems. Do you think if Israel just stopped the occupation there would be world-peace? If the US became a laid-back nation with no foreign policy? People read that several iraqis/palestinians were killed an immediately shout "Genocide", when in fact it's a lot better to be an Iraqi or a Palestinian than a christian in an arab nation. Everyone remember that sharon gave weapons to christians who killed 500 muslims, but nobody remember that arafat directed a group which executed nearly a 1,000 christians in a village in lebanon in 3 days. So really, these arabs really should know when to stop.

[admiral_ju00]

In china they raped a girl in a bus and 40 passengers did nothing

 

In both cases the actions of the 'eyewitnesses' is inexcusable.

 

It doesn't matter if the 40 other passengers were elderly or in their teens. If they All rose up to the attackers/rapists, their combined aurora would have been enough to deter the attacks.

 

Or what were their alternative? Slaughter all of the 40 people(plus the original victim)?

Well, a single case of say: a brutal rape is in no way equal to a mass murder.

[Dreamer]

Remember the 23 years old french woman that claimed she and her baby were attacked on a suburban paris train? she claimed 6 arabs approached her, kicked her baby out of her hands, took her wallet, cut her hair and t-shirt and drew a svastika on her body after discovering she lives in the very wealthy neighborhood in paris were obviously a lot of jews live so they took her for a jew. anyway, c'est rien que de la merde. she just admitted at the police that she made up the story, the one who drew the svastika and cut heir hair was one of her girlfriends. they used the jewish thing to draw attention because wouldn't the attack be portrayed as anti-semitic it would probably not be heard at all, but since we jews get very vocal about any attack against members of our tribe she counted on that to make her famous. What a chienne foutue!! But I really really like what she did. Isn't that amazing that people try to become famous no matter how hard it is. Now she could be sentenced to 1 year in jail, but who cares, she'll probably won't go there but to some lunatic house where she'll be able to draw attention by shouting out phrases like: "Baise moi sil vous plait!". Bahahahaha.

[Phi for All]

Why didn't you put this in the first thread?

[Sayonara]

Crazy old Phi_for_All and his hallucinations.

[Dreamer]

I accidently used "new thread" instead of "post reply"

[Dreamer]

and i don't think she's crazy, just someone who was trying really hard to become famous.. don't you all want to be stars on sunset boulevard?

[YT2095]

in an age where almost everyone has a mobile fone, it`s pathetic that no one bothered to call the authorities, even from a safe distance

[jordan]

Did you read post #15 YT?

[YT2095]

Did you read post #15 YT?

Indeed I did, but wasn`t replying to that as it was wholey assinine, the principal of the matter (hence there are more than just that lame anecdote in this thread) is what my responce was too

 

it would seem Dreamer is just that!

[jordan]

What was the principle of the matter? Wasn't the story falsified for attention?

[YT2095]

the principal as mentioned about people doing nothing where they should.

 

the 40 on the bus in China for example, or in "The tipping Point" book.

[Dreamer]