blike Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Alright, I've been wondering about this for quite some time now. Milliseconds after the big bang occured, why didn't everything crunch together? All the mass of the universe was in such close proximity creating a gravitational field far stronger than any black hole could produce. Given that not even light can escape a black hole, how could matter, which can't travel faster than light, escape? Seems like everything should have just collapsed almost instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Energy. In the first few milliseconds, an equal amount of matter and anti-matter were created, and 94% of it collided and produced a massive amount of energy as the particles annhilated eachother. Since not all anti-particles decay at the same rate as their counterparts, 6% of the original matter created was not annihilated and subject to the energy released by the rest. Also, I believe the big bang theory defines matter being created at many points, not just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 99% of all percentages are made up... and i'm a jackass ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 More of "educated guess" since no one was around to measure it (that we know of, of course... except god, but we haven't heard much out of him in a couple thousand years, assuming Jesus even spoke in his behalf) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 The one and only BIG BANG did not happen. Attractive gravity does not exist. Both Newton and Einstein failed to understand that a PULL can not exist, and therefore objects on Earth are PUSHed to the ground. Spin Gravity is precessional and answers the why of "why do things move in the first place" Spin gravity waves have been photographed! and they take the form of a double helix!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 I love how people just come out and contradict the greatest minds ever to have lived, and provide no technical evidence to back up their claims. And then how do you account for gravity strong enough to pull light into a black hole, or the fact galaxies are pulled towards eachother (our own Milky Way will collide with another galaxy a couple billion years after our sun burns out, 5-6 billion years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blike Posted July 13, 2002 Author Share Posted July 13, 2002 Any place I can view these photographs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memry Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 Push and pull might simply be universal constructs of mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 You may view a rising plasma generated by a tesla high voltage coil. The spin gravity lines of force cause all objects that fall, to be pushed towards the centre of spin. They can be observed in water "falling" from the sky, they can be observed in the plasma rising from a wood fire. http://www.dromo.com/fusionanomaly/teslacoildoubleheliximage.html By the way black holes are a figment of the immagination also. Cosmology is in for a real shake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 http://www.dromo.com/fusionanomaly/ teslacoildoubleheliximage.html That address again, some got lost above !! > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 ...and the existance of spin gravity doesn't eliminate the existance of attractional gravity, nor discredits the countless experiments done that illustrate attractional gravity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memry Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 Thanks for that great link, Zarkov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 As I have stated PULL does not exist, attractive gravity or GR gravity is plainly false,. Spin gravity is the resultant of spin. Other spinning fields that push objects together are magnetism and Electricity. All the observed effects relating to effects of "gravity" can be explained by these natural phemonena, without adding more complexity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 Look I'm about sick of your whacked out concept of the universe, either provide technical detail as to how Einstein and Newton are wrong, since I'm sure they know a hell of alot more than you ever will, or stop talking out your ass from a couple non-technical references. Not all objects are magnetic, and there is no "electrical" force... there's electromagnetic and electrostatic. How's about you give me some documented equations that exactly shows the force of gravity, and some documented experimental data that shows the formula works? The electromagnetic and magnetic forces between galaxies are negligible, and still do not account for the movement of galaxies 7+Mpc apart (assuming you even know what that unit is, considering your blatant lack of scientific knowledge) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 Sorry mate, I will not reply to you in future. You have a closed mind, but it is lucky for LIFE on this planet that we are all not like you. Thanks for showing your personality type > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 There's a huge difference between having an open mind and believing something that has NO basis in life and comes from crackpot sources with no formal education. We've long proved that gravity exists. We have studied gravitons. You are WRONG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 Furthermore, having an open mind in this area means listening to someone say "what we know for a fact might suggest this" instead of an established theory. Having an open mind does NOT entail believing every crackpot who comes along with NO EVIDENCE, NO DETAIL, NOTHING other than the words of someone who's probably never even heard of a "graviton" or looked at analyses from particle accelerators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 Gravatrons are theoretical. Funny how you have taken your position without ant knowlege of the position you have taken! curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 Classical or relativistic gravity has many FATAL flaws. One ..gravity has no aberration! as shown by calculations and the directions photons travel from the Sun to the Earth. Two.. to overcome these problems gravity has to travel at speeds between 20Xc and 2X10^20c , clearly incorrect. Spin gravity has no such problems ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blike Posted July 14, 2002 Author Share Posted July 14, 2002 Thanks for the link, Zarkov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blike Posted July 14, 2002 Author Share Posted July 14, 2002 Though there is no documentation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 Gravitons* (what is a gravatron? you can't even come up with the right word) are quite real, pick up any quantum mechanics book. The gravity within our solar system have a negligible effect on photons, since they have no mass and space-time is not curved enough to alter their path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 I pity any man who feels secure in his knowledge of the universe because he is secured in perpetual ignorance. I give you an A for effort Zarkov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Unregistered Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 Its true! Centrifugal force does not exist! I saw it in a photograph! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 Centrafugal and centrapetal force both exist, they can only be demonstrated on objects immersed in a spinning field ! > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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