georgeramusane Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 ran into more problems with reasoning out the attached questions. can anyone solve these and pls state how u get to ur answer. thanks.> Reasoning.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedot Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) ran into more problems with reasoning out the attached questions. can anyone solve these and pls state how u get to ur answer. thanks. > After considering these questions, I concluded they have practically nothing to do with logical reasoning. As matter of fact, only Q4 and Q5 make some sense to me. For example, from 4 shapes in Q1 one can make a rectangle (answer "A"). But who asks you to make a rectangle? The answer may be "D" too, because it is small and pointy just as 4 previous shapes. In Q2, I would pick answer "A", simply on the basis of the next door similarity. And Q3 is a complete randomizer. Any answer can be correct Edited September 19, 2014 by bluedot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiveworlds Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 ran into more problems with reasoning out the attached questions. can anyone solve these and pls state how u get to ur answer. thanks. > Complete gibberish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrick Laursen Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Is it an IQ test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedot Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Is it an IQ test? Might be. If you conclude more than half of the questions = rubbish, you're intelligent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrick Laursen Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 five worlds You used 2+2=5 at least in two other places. Are you really in 1984? How can we answer the question while we do not now what is the question? Anyone please tell me, are we to find what shape fills the "?" box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiveworlds Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) You used 2+2=5 at least in two other places That's my signature Are you really in 1984? That's a security question. What year do you want it to be? I was just reading about Martin Niemöller Anyone please tell me, are we to find what shape fills the "?" box? ? Edited September 19, 2014 by fiveworlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endy0816 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 My guesses: 1) C Based on counting the number of sides and type of triangle. 2) E Rhombus-Rectangle, Rhombus-Triangle pattern 3) B Color pattern. 3rd figure takes it's outside color from the inside color of the first shape and its inside color from the outside color of the 2nd shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedot Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 At least I've changed my mind about Q2. Now I prefer "C": in every box there are 5 straight lines (+ after coloured sequence of boxes follows uncolured one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrick Laursen Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 That's my signature That's a security question. What year do you want it to be? I was just reading about Martin Niemöller ? 1984 By George Orwell. My guess for 5 is C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedot Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) 1984 By George Orwell. My guess for 5 is C. I think Q4 and Q5 are decent. Let the middle box have a m-gon and a n-gon. Then the left one has mn-5 black dots and the right one has m+n-5 black dots.We have mn-5=10,m+n-5=3 which gives (m,n)=(3,5) and thus "C" is good guess for Q5 . Edited September 20, 2014 by bluedot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tar Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 georgeramusane I think D,A,A,C,B are the answers. (My guesses) I attached my reasoning. Regards, TAR Noticed two addition things about question 4. There are two bold symbols in each row and column if you pick C, but this is also the case with several of the other answers. However the box on the upper right has the same symbol inside and outside, which is counter my initial reasoning. But the fact that the inside and outside symbol are the same in the upper right box, means that the number of sides involved in both symbols is equal, which is only the case once per row, and once per column, and since the question mark is in its row, it eliminates any answer which includes the same number of sides in both the inner symbol and the outer. So C still works the best, to match the most patterns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imatfaal Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 q1 = A. the four shapes given when added make the 5th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tar Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 imatfaal, Very good. You are right. I am changing my answer for number 1 to A. Regards, TAR What I am missing on the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrick Laursen Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Did anyone work out Q2? It's really a wonder to me. PS: Great job imat, agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedot Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Regarding Q1, Imatfatal discovered "hot water". Well,read my 1st post of this thread. The puzzle is bad, and Q2 is even worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tar Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Bluedot, Judging by Imatfaal's successful crack of the code in number one, I would suggest that each of the others is equally crackable. That is, if you think your answer is a guess, you have not cracked the code. My feeling at this point, is that "getting" the other answers would be as obvious as Imatfaal's find in number 1. When the answer is right, there is no question but it is right, and no chance that it is a guess. In other words, number one has an obviously correct answer. The others will also have an obviously correct answer. When anybody cracks one of the others, the answer will be the answer, not a quess. Regards, TAR In even other words, they are not gibberish. There is a code to crack, in each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedot Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 @tar, I'm not completely sure the answer "A" is correct for that question. I explained why, and I can elaborate further if you want. Most likely the answer A is correct , but it could be just "red herring" becouse nobody ask you to make rectangle of the pieces in the sequence. And nobody cracked code here, there's no code to crack. All this seem like some weird puzzles with some answers more probable than others offered. BTW, closest to "code cracking" looks Q5 to me. The system of graphical equations. See my explanation why "C" should be answer to Q5. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tar Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) Bluedot, Oh come on. It is so freaken obvious that the peices are exactly the peices of a rectangle, that once you see it, you say "oh, how did I miss that, that is obviously the answer". Seems reasonable to me, that the others are of a similar type. That is, all the "possible" answers melt away, once you crack the code, and you simple see what the code maker was doing, and know for certain which one is the answer. All my answers were "reasonable" as are yours. But they would be the right answer, only by chance. If either you or I would have come upon the obvious answer for any of the questions, everybody else would simply agree, and say "oh yeah, that's it". I would think my answers are all equally wrong as my answer to A was. Possible, but not the thing that was being encoded. Only by chance would my answers be right, so maybe I got one right...by chance. Imatfaal got one right because he cracked the code, on that one. Regards, TAR Edited September 25, 2014 by tar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedot Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 All my answers were "reasonable" as are yours. But they would be the right answer, only by chance. If either you or I would have come upon the obvious answer for any of the questions, everybody else would simply agree, and say "oh yeah, that's it". I would think my answers are all equally wrong as my answer to A was. Possible, but not the thing that was being encoded. Only by chance would my answers be right, so maybe I got one right...by chance. Imatfaal got one right because he cracked the code, on that one. Regards, TAR Ok. That would mean we have "cracked code" only for q1 and q5. 3 more questions left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tar Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 or perhaps 4 to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedot Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Did anyone work out Q2? It's really a wonder to me. PS: Great job imat, agreed! Q2 is "5 lines question". All the boxes contain 5 straight lines. Therefore, answers "B" or "C" are only possible. Since quadrilaterals' outside areas are shaded in the first two boxes, that would mean best answer is "B". Also, disregarding notion of sequence , the question may simply ask "which one is the most like others?". The answer "B" again. Cracked or perhaps 4 to go 2 to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tar Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Bluedot, Well wait. Imatfaal gave us THE answer to number 1. You are just floating the "best answer" or your "best guess". In other words you have not cracked the code, if therei is an element of doubt and if it a guess. Still four to go. You need someone else to say "oh yeah, now I see it", or you have not cracked it, just given a "possible", arbitrary assessment. Regards, TAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedot Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 My answer to Q5 isn't just guess. It is elementary school math and it fits perfectly. If someone has problem with understanding it, well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrick Laursen Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I believe there must be "correct" answers based on the fact that they're obviously correct. Like imatfaal's. Otherwise all of us are capable of making some made-up answers and start philosophizing to make others believe they're the answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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