Leison Posted July 28, 2004 Posted July 28, 2004 there are organisms having no sex, hermaphrodite, etc. We have male and female i.e. 2 sexes . What would happen if there were 3 different sexes and to reproduce gametes were needed from all these sexes? What would be the life like? More complex? difficult?
Primarygun Posted July 28, 2004 Posted July 28, 2004 Human will regulate their structure if they can't reproduce. In this case, I think the third sex will do this if it can't since this is a common characteristic for all living organisms.
LucidDreamer Posted July 28, 2004 Posted July 28, 2004 There is already a third sex in the human species. His name is Richard Simmons and his strange mating ritual is called Sweating to the Oldies.
Guest HannonRJ Posted July 28, 2004 Posted July 28, 2004 "Breathes there a man with hide so tough, he thinks two sexes are not enough?" Samuel Hoffenstein
JaKiri Posted July 28, 2004 Posted July 28, 2004 There's a description of a 3 sex society in Iain M Banks's Player of Games. Of course, you could always turn to the Futurama Smizmar concept.
ydoaPs Posted July 28, 2004 Posted July 28, 2004 there was a species with three sexes on Enterprise. I believe it was Cogenitor.
pulkit Posted July 28, 2004 Posted July 28, 2004 I wonder what reproduction would be like ? The chances of 3 people mutually liking each are one-third that of just the 2 hitting it off together. A lot less population maybe.....that may be nice.
ydoaPs Posted July 28, 2004 Posted July 28, 2004 in Cogeniter, the third sex was like a slave. they were considered a degenerate race.
Leison Posted July 29, 2004 Author Posted July 29, 2004 i think except pulkit nobody got into the point that i was expecting. let's suppose there's no any superior or inferior sex. i'm talking about reproduction process and the life - how they would do sex to reproduce or love making,dating etc.i think it would be lot more difficult.
pulkit Posted July 29, 2004 Posted July 29, 2004 Families for obvious reasons would be larger in size, but fewer in number....... a lot less housing perhaps but bigger houses for all.
ydoaPs Posted July 29, 2004 Posted July 29, 2004 maybe it would be like fish. one releases eggs, another sperm, anonther something else.
pulkit Posted July 29, 2004 Posted July 29, 2004 because of this weird system in fish and corals generally around mating season oceans fill up with excess sperm (especially when corals do it). That would certainly be really weird if replicated.
apathy Posted July 29, 2004 Posted July 29, 2004 The Gods Themselves by Isaac Asimov had creatures of 3 sexes
Leison Posted July 31, 2004 Author Posted July 31, 2004 thanks for "pulkit" and "yourdad..." for ideas but i didn't understand apathy. could u explain further more abt that "book or story or "?
Irken_Link Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 The third gender could use a mean of self-reproduting(altough they would be exactly like their parent). However I have heard of females having only one x chromosone
Firedragon52 Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 Arggggg....The question seems so simple, but a well thought out answer seems so complicated. I lot of different factors would need to be considered. Like what would be the evolutionary benefit for a species with 3 sexes? Hell, sometimes the 2 sex system seems fragile and unnecessary (sometimes). How would the dynamics of this system work? Would each sex be able to breed with each other? Or would two sexes ONLY be able to breed with one of the sexes? It even sounds complicated. So, I would think life would be more complex and competitive for this organism.
ydoaPs Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 reference the fish idea. seems simple enough there.
Mad Mardigan Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 Total Recall quote, "Baby, you make me wish I had 3 hands."
Firedragon52 Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 reference the fish idea. seems simple enough there. Yes and no. This problem seems alot more complicated to me. Think about it this way: As far as I know, outside of asexual species, there is always an organism that creates eggs (female) and a organism that merely fertilizes these eggs (male). I'm just not comprehending how this third element could fit into this picture. Like your example: maybe it would be like fish. one releases eggs, another sperm, anonther something else.OK...So the fish that releases the eggs would be our "female". The fish that releases the sperm would be our "male" And the fish that releases this "something else" or "other" would be...what? Here is where it gets a little complicated for me. This "other" that the fish released, would it..."interact" with other eggs, in that case you could say that it is merely another type of male. Doe this "other" interact with the sperm? If it operates the same way as an egg does, than maybe this organism is another type of female. But, if it interacts with both...it just gets confusing for me here. I mean what would differentiate this gamete from a egg or sperm? Why would we need to call the organism, that produced it, something other than a male or a female?
ydoaPs Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 perhaps it could by a chemical to prepare the eggs for fertilization. it could be anything. this is entirely speculation
Firedragon52 Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 perhaps it could by a chemical to prepare the eggs for fertilization. it could be anything. this is entirely speculation Possibly, but if this chemical merely prepares the egg instead of fertilizing it, would it really be warranted to call this organism a third sex? To be considered a sex, I definitely think some swapping of chromosomes is in order, or else this third sex seems no more than a sterile helper (think worker bees).
Mad Mardigan Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 Person X would be the host, Y would release the sperm, and Z would release the egg, after combining in X, an XYZ = host, YYZ = sperm, and YZZ = egg. 1
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