budullewraagh Posted August 1, 2004 Posted August 1, 2004 soz for the simplicity of this post, but is it true that the blades of pencil sharpeners are made of 90% (give or take a few percent) magnesium? note: i'm speaking of those really cheap plastic and blade pencil sharpeners.
Pleiades Posted August 1, 2004 Posted August 1, 2004 The rectangular blades? I’d say no, I’ve seen them rust. Maybe if the sharpener has a metal body….. that could be magnesium. If you look inside an electric pencil sharpener you will find a metal cylinder with spiral grooves on it that does the cutting of the pencil, I suspect this would be the magnesium part. I’ve not seen this cylinder rust, but other than that, I have no idea.
LucidDreamer Posted August 1, 2004 Posted August 1, 2004 I opened mine up and it says stainless steel. Its one of those cheapies your talking about. Don't know about the other brands.
budullewraagh Posted August 1, 2004 Author Posted August 1, 2004 that's unfortunate. i heard that they are over 90% Mg from another enthused chemist. what a shame.
budullewraagh Posted August 1, 2004 Author Posted August 1, 2004 scratch that; it's not the blades, rather it's the casings. a picture: if that didnt show up, http://www.quiltcandy.com/media/noscps_lg.jpg
YT2095 Posted August 1, 2004 Posted August 1, 2004 the casing in the old pencil sharpeners (NOT the blades!) are indeed what you say, as are the old HDD chassis, you`ve been told quite correctly
raivo Posted August 1, 2004 Posted August 1, 2004 Can anyone tell what is easyest way to know of some piece of metall that it is mostly Mg and not just Al?
pulkit Posted August 1, 2004 Posted August 1, 2004 Al does not easily dissolve in cold concentrated acids such as sulphuric and nitric because of an oxide coating.......Mg will react with nitric acid in a jify....in fact even with extremely low concentrations
budullewraagh Posted August 1, 2004 Author Posted August 1, 2004 old HDD chassis what is/are that/those? Can anyone tell what is easyest way to know of some piece of metall that it is mostly Mg and not just Al? read above; the Mg is over 90%.
Pleiades Posted August 1, 2004 Posted August 1, 2004 I figured it was the body not the blade of those old cheapies. An HDD chassis is a part of a Hard Disk Drive, it holds the disks, the arm and the circuitry together. Hmm, I’m gonna go shave off a piece of my old Western Digital Caviar 21200 and try and burn it, its a whole 1281.9 MB, wow! I wonder if 1995 is old enough
Pleiades Posted August 1, 2004 Posted August 1, 2004 Either impure magnesium wont burn, even under a mapp gas blowtorch, or my HDD is not magnesium. A shaving of pure magnesium burned like normal.
budullewraagh Posted August 1, 2004 Author Posted August 1, 2004 a good way to check is to powder it and burn it:) incredibly pyrophoric.
raivo Posted August 1, 2004 Posted August 1, 2004 Most old HDD-s are surely aluminium. It must be some particular brand that used magnesium or maybe those really old HDD-s that had sizes less than 30 Mb? I do not know is this of interest for anyone but i have seen something in shop that was called "magnesium electrode for water boiler". It was aproximately 20 cm length & 1...2cm of diameter. And it was indeed very light magnesiumlike metal. Does anyone know more about such thing?
Pleiades Posted August 2, 2004 Posted August 2, 2004 If anyone has any HDDs smaller than 30 megs, they’re more valuable in a museum than your amateur experiments. Apparently you can find bars of magnesium in stores that sell camping supplies for use as ‘fire starters’, but I don’t know for sure cause we don’t have any stores like that here. I’ve never heard of anything called a "magnesium electrode for water boiler", and Google returns very few hits for things like "magnesium electrode".
budullewraagh Posted August 2, 2004 Author Posted August 2, 2004 If anyone has any HDDs smaller than 30 gigs, they’re more valuable in a museum than your amateur experiments. you mean megs, surely, right? my father has a comp that has a hard drive of probably just a few megs; certainly under 30. i'll check camping stores for Mg starters
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