ydoaPs Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 standardized testing is pointless. the only thing it can tell you is how good you are at taking standardized tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 ..or how well you learned what you were supposed to learn in class... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulkit Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 wat exactly do u mean by "standardized testing" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 In the US, you have to take a test (that EVERYONE has to take) in school every year. Everyone in the US takes it, or a form of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted August 6, 2004 Author Share Posted August 6, 2004 i know several really smart kids that are bad at tests and do badly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulkit Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 If there were no testing, I do not believe too many people would try and learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 i know several really smart kids that are bad at tests and do badly Do they learn the material, or do they just know other stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badchad Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 How else would you measure the ability/willingness to work of an individual if you didn't have standardized tests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted August 6, 2004 Author Share Posted August 6, 2004 they know the material. personally, i do very well on them. i do better than 97 percent of the country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 How else would you measure the ability/willingness to work of an individual if you didn't have standardized tests? Exactly. You may hate them, but they tell you if you learned the material, remembered last year's, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted August 6, 2004 Author Share Posted August 6, 2004 How else would you measure the ability/willingness to work of an individual if you didn't have standardized tests? there are these things called grades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 they know the material. personally, i do very well on them. i do better than 97 percent of the country Apparently not in english class. CAPITALIZE AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE YOU DO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 there are these things called grades Grades only say "He knows a bunch of his work." They don't tell you if he actually comprehends it, remembers it still, and WHAT parts he knows. Plus, if they're standardized, you can compare it to all of the US without saying "That's because Mr. So-and-so gives easy exams!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badchad Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 there are these things called grades Grades? so just because a teacher awards you a good grade that means you have achieved more then someone who has lower grades? Every teacher is different, and they all teach differently, which is exactly the reason we have standardized tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulkit Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 there are these things called grades GRADES are a tad unfair at school level where scoring is so high. It is best to distinguish between all individuals with minimum allowable granularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted August 6, 2004 Author Share Posted August 6, 2004 y should i? yes i do well on the english. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 You give the impression of an illiterate person. Us good people does use them thar grammar, yessiree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulkit Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 I do feel that standardized testing though necessary has limited co-relation to your smartness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted August 6, 2004 Author Share Posted August 6, 2004 nu uh. me only use good spag in schizool, yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MulderMan Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 govermental compulsary tests in my oppinion in the schools i have attended usually just tell the school how good it is and gives it a bit of free publicity, more pupils more funds. also shows what level of learning you are at and what sets you will be in next year or term, the gov compulsary ones ive taken so far are: SAT's (maths english science) 6-7 years old SAT's (maths english science) 13-14 years old but since highschool ive taken maths eng sci tests every year and every half tern, and testing on every minor subject also. but thats school specific. i dont think its like america with if you fail in anything you get kept behind or go to summer school - stereotypically that is . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbp6 Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 Standardized test scores are currently the best way to measure the ability of an individual to do well in college. I know its not the best. I think that overall what the schools do might be the best way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulkit Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 The only Amrican science and maths question papers I have ever layed my eyes on were those of the SAT I and SAT II that people give to get into college. Frankly, they were pathetically simple. Way below the standard i'd expect any decent paper to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badchad Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 thats because it doesn't take an extraordinary effort to get into college. The test has to be simple enough to give the normal morons a chance to get into college. From what I remember the test is set up so theres a large continum of scores. So yes, they may be easy, but it's difficult to get them perfect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulkit Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 because it doesn't take an extraordinary effort to get into college Completely untrue in India !! Can happen only in the US. So yes, they may be easy, but it's difficult to get them perfect... I would definately agree with you there. In SAT-1 i don't think anything below 1550 should be acceptable and in SAT-2 anything below 2050. (Assuming they are evaluated out of 1600 and 2100 respectively). Scoring in the English paper is somehow tougher, thats where most people I knew ever lost their marks, gettin perfect scores in the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badchad Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 Completely untrue in India !! Can happen only in the US. I would definately agree with you there. In SAT-1 i don't think anything below 1550 should be acceptable and in SAT-2 anything below 2050. (Assuming they are evaluated out of 1600 and 2100 respectively). Scoring in the English paper is somehow tougher' date=' thats where most people I knew ever lost their marks, gettin perfect scores in the rest.[/quote'] I won't start bashing or flaming, but the U.S. educational system is one of the best in the world! and 1550 on SAT I? thats an incredible score over 99th percentile probably... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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