stevebtaylor Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 this scenario describes the final collapse of a star to a black hole, and also will ask some questions that i hope you can help me with. heres the short version: gravity wave triggers spatial contraction to singularity, a 2-dimensional object Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch2008 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 After core fusion reaches iron, it’s the mass of the outer layers of the star imploding at about a quarter of the speed of light that causes the “spatial contraction” and the singularity may be a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebtaylor Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 admitedly this is non-conventional view, however, in four-dimensional space-time the singularity is only reduced by the dimensions of length and time, leaving two dimensions, the y and z axis. in this model, the spatial contraction converts all the infalling mass to energy, energy densities that aquire gravitational properties (fifth state of matter?) squishes the high-energy wavelengths together to the point where the representative sine-waves (time=0) approach the vertical and absorb the energy into bonds with each other resulting in a 2-dimension so-called singularity, full of enegy in the bond but frozen in the singularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch2008 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Well one conventional view is that the spinning star collapses first into a sort of torus and then the torus further pancakes down to a spinning Kerr ring singularity (KRS). So the “z” or height axis ”is reduced” as anything perpendicular to the plane of the KRS is crushed flat by gravity. Also, I believe that time becomes a spatial dimension inside the Event Horizon and isn’t “reduced”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebtaylor Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) yes, it can be shown as a singularity. even in my model there would be some x component as it gets stacked up, leading to a thin 3 rd dimension. inside the event horizon but outside the singularity? as to time component, time becomes space? very interesting can you explain that a bit more Edited March 25, 2010 by stevebtaylor clearing a thot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch2008 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 You might want to start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole The typical 3-D cube plus time is frame dragged so that all vectors, to include time, point to the singularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebtaylor Posted March 28, 2010 Author Share Posted March 28, 2010 thanks for the tutorial. the triple point of light describes a singularity that is a stable form of energy. it has reached the saturation point of light. is this correct? > the spacial contraction event occurs at relativistic speed. all matter is converted to energy, the wave lengths are shifted to high energy. now, here i propose that the sine-waves of the energies are almost vertical and then, at spacial contraction, are pushed together where the energy is absorbed into forming bonds between the e-m fields. the energy goes into binding the fields together. now being vertical one spatial direction is lost as well as the time component, a local event. this is what the singularity should be composed of, bound energy with gravitational properties. would this be considered a form of matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebtaylor Posted March 31, 2010 Author Share Posted March 31, 2010 are there any comments on the singularity being composed of bounded energy-fields? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhenaten2 Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Just This - since singularities do not exist you can compose them in any way you feel like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebtaylor Posted April 3, 2010 Author Share Posted April 3, 2010 are you refering to pin-point singularity, your opinion or in jest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebtaylor Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 (edited) the triple-point of light is the supposed state of a singularity. a collapsing stars' mass is converted to energy by a relativistic event and results in a blackhole. the spatial contraction has bound the energy waves together by re-arranging the em fields. this is basically the starting point of the triple point of light, where the fields of the sinewaves of light are horizontal for both planes of the em waves, and so in absorbing an amount of energy via amplitude amplification, the fields hold the waves frozen in place. this requires only that the weak fields of individual waves relax under pressure and extend across the new object with a strong field, a blackhole singularity. now, my question is this. do those fields exist around each sinewave (electro=y, magnetic=z, time =x) that describes a photon in motion? Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedis that a clear question? ive benn surfing and can find nothing on this. Edited April 11, 2010 by stevebtaylor sp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebtaylor Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 the original purpose of this proposal was to outline the basic layout of blackhole formation and then attempt to fill in the pieces. the basic layout for blackhole formation is; chaotic collapse of stellar mass begins the process. spatial contraction is the end state. in between, mass is converted to energy. the analogy is to a nuclear explosion where an implosion is used to detonate an explosion. for a blackhole to form, this explosion is further imploded. this seems to be the basic outline for blackhole formation. my question to you: is the 3-step ouline for a blackhole valid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebtaylor Posted April 19, 2010 Author Share Posted April 19, 2010 to clarify, the triple-point of light refers to the state inside a blackhole. the mass of a collapsing star has been converted to energy and that energy has been spatially contracted in the dimension of travel. so what is holding it there? the light, read energy, has absorbed an incredible amount of energy and also been compressed. it should explode. so, does the energy of spatial contraction exceed this value? we dont know because spatial contraction does not have an energy formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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