B AR GA IN is it just a myth

[Scylla]

I watched a tv show and someone on the show said that theres a theory that if you can combine boron, argon, gallium and indium into a solor cell it would be possible to harness 100% of the suns energy. I know its a show but I just wanted to know is this a true theory or is it just completly false and theres so such history of BARGAIN.

 

Cheers.

[ercdndrs]

It seems kind of wierd that it spells 'bargain'.

 

Coincidence?

[Zolar V]

from my rudimentary chemistry knowledge, it seems possible that those elements could in fact be used in a particular way that would allow for efficiency of a solar cell.

[insane_alien]

no, its complete bull likely made up for plot purposes and chemistry humour. it would be impossible to harness 100% of the energy hitting the surface of the pannel anyway.

[Scylla]

I just wanted to clear it up because I thought it was just a made up plot for the story but just wanted to make sure. Is there anyone here who actually knows for sure?

[ydoaPs]

What show was it?

[Scylla]

Prison break

[insane_alien]

then yeah, it'll have been made up, seeing as it's a fictional show and all, they don't really care about the existance of something to bung it in.

[Scylla]

Well thats not exactly true because there are many things they pull off that are actually genuine. Hooks law of elasticity or something that allows them to bring down a solid concrete wall by making afew small holes in the correct place, makes the wall very weak and unstable.

 

Regardless of it being shown in a tv show I just want to know if anyone has even heard of such a theory as the one im explaining.

[insane_alien]

Like has already been said, its crap. A big clue to this is the Argon. its completely unreactive (barring a few exotic states when its forced to react with fluorine and those are useless for solar panels as the light would destroy them, hell, anything above 100K would destroy them).

 

current promising methods of boosting PV efficiency are based more on carbon nanostructured surfaces to collect light.

[iNow]

As well as sodium and cadmium telluride.

[ydoaPs]

Now unobtainium, THAT's the real deal!

[General]

Well thats not exactly true because there are many things they pull off that are actually genuine. Hooks law of elasticity or something that allows them to bring down a solid concrete wall by making afew small holes in the correct place, makes the wall very weak and unstable.

 

Regardless of it being shown in a tv show I just want to know if anyone has even heard of such a theory as the one im explaining.

 

I'm afraid that i have to kill you now.

[Mateus]

Bring me scylla

 

 

[EdEarl]

Anything big enough to see that is said to be 100% efficient is inevitably untrue.

[SamBridge]

Well, there are super fluids that are friction-less like liquid helium (http://phys.org/news91000719.html) and super conductors that have 0 resistance and nearly-weightless metal, it would not be impossible that Prison Break got the idea from asking an actual scientist if it is theoretically possible, or researching to find such technology is being developed. But Indium and gallium seem like weird metals to use, they are close to semi-metals and gallium being able to be liquid at room temperature has a somewhat unstable structure that inhibits electrons passing though it to some extent, I suppose there's this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_wire

But you need Vanadium, they probably only mentioned those elements so they could spell the word "bargain".

Edited May 30, 2013 by SamBridge

[EdEarl]

Anything big enough to see that is said to be 100% efficient is inevitably untrue.

If someone makes a room temperature superconductor, I will willingly print this statement out and eat my words. And, I won't waffle over the inefficient process of putting energy into and taking energy out of it. It will be at least as remarkable as the nearly-weightless metal, and important to both industry and science.

[Di-hydrogen Oxide]

Scylla,

 

Scylla aka "The Companies Little black book," I just watched that exact scene and did the same thing as you went on to see if it was real haha that's too funny, and this is the first post I saw on it.

 

Great Minds think alike

[J.C.MacSwell]

Now unobtainium, THAT's the real deal!

Great! Where can I get some?

[Endy0816]

Great! Where can I get some?

 

Pandora, they are also known for their music and jewelry selections.

[ydoaPs]

Great! Where can I get some?

Unfortunately, it's currently unobtainable.

[Yamlak]

On 4/17/2010 at 8:48 PM, Scylla said:

 

On 4/17/2010 at 8:48 PM, Scylla said:

 

Cheers.

Prison Break Huhh...  Amazing Show! 

I don't think you can create a sustainable and renewable energy by harnessing the sun's solar power cells. 

 

 

Edited February 14, 2018 by Yamlak

[John Cuthber]

I haven't seen the show, and probably won't but I'm wondering what sot of plot device this BArGaIn is.

My first guess would be that it's a MacGuffin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin

But it occurreed to me that it's a bit specific for that.

Is it one of these?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plot_device

[Sensei]

There is known just a few Argon compounds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argon_compounds

As it's Noble gas, they're in majority extremely unstable.

 

[feeh]

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