Sayonara Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 Following on from the "how many sides does a sphere have?" thread, I thought it might be interesting to see how people react when asked to describe Klein Bottles. How many (a) sides, (b) surfaces, © edges, (d) contained volumes do they have?
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 a)1 b)1 c)0 d) 0 Maybe. I remember hearing about those. Weird. I should show my math teacher when we're doing geometry.
Solaris Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 Saw the movie about the building up of a Klein bottle. a.1 b.1 c.0 d.? And one more question, what is their use (if they have one)?
5614 Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 a. 1 b. 1 c. 0 d. not sure, maybe 0, but dont know for sure... and repeating solaris, why are they special? is it because of the answer to the question sayo posted in his 1st post?
jordan Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 1)? 2)1 3)0 4)1 Pretty much same as pulkit, though #1 is still questionable for much the same reasons as the circle with so questionable. If I had to guess, though, I'd say 1.
YT2095 Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 the volume or capacity is dependant on it`s size, with rotational manipulation to avoid air pockets, one could easily fill such a bottle with water to determine this I`ll think about the other 3 later
aommaster Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 Too much to think about, eh? YT? [Edit] This is way over the top of my head!
jordan Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 What are you saying YT? Which question were you trying to answer? I'm assuming #4, but that asks how many contained volumes there are, not how much the contained volume is. Can you explain?
Skye Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 Why isn't where the neck rejoins the body considered an edge?
NSX Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 but can be physically realized only in four dimensions, since it must pass through itself without the presence of a hole I don't understand sides, corners, edges and contained volumes when it comes to 4D... Nice shape though.
swansont Posted September 29, 2016 Posted September 29, 2016 The answer is Inside and Outside No, it's not. A klein bottle's inside and outside are the same side https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_bottle 1
Country Boy Posted September 30, 2016 Posted September 30, 2016 Why isn't where the neck rejoins the body considered an edge? The neck doesn't rejoin the body in a true Klein bottle. What you have seen is a three dimensional representation if a figure that only exists in four dimensions.
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