bositong Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 (edited) I have successfully invented a perpetual motion machine Edited April 25, 2010 by Phi for All removed link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 no you haven't 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 bositong, since we don't know you at all, I have removed your link. I'm sure you can appreciate the dangers of being taken to strange internet sites. Please feel free to repost your ideas here so we can discuss them in full. Right here. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedDo you have a working prototype, or is this all on paper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bositong Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 27, 2010 I have successfully invented a perpetual motion machine This invention is a success because it has taken a subversion of the traditional design thought of perpetual motion . The machine is composed by three main parts--- thrust generator, energy converters, displacement qualifier and auxiliary systems. Energy converters can be gravity balls(hammer) or buoyancy spheres. Under the affect of thrust generator and displacement qualifier, energy converters run along pre-defined path. The left and right sides of the path is dissymmetrical, these two sides have asymmetric moments, which make the machine move perpetually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timo Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 I have successfully invented a perpetual motion machine Congratulations. When will it go to mass production and be available on the market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomgwyther Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 What exactly is the Thrust Generator you've mentioned? presumably, if it's generating thrust, it is using energy from somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 What exactly is the Thrust Generator you've mentioned? presumably, if it's generating thrust, it is using energy from somewhere. Ah one of the tough questions, next someone will be asking him how he removed all friction from the system... Which reminds me... How did you remove all friction from the system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 "I have successfully invented a perpetual motion machine " LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 no you haven't Quoted For Truth. How did you overcome friction? How did you overcome I2R losses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Skeptic Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 This invention is a success because it has taken a subversion of the traditional design thought of perpetual motion . The machine is composed by three main parts--- thrust generator, energy converters, displacement qualifier and auxiliary systems. Energy converters can be gravity balls(hammer) or buoyancy spheres. Under the affect of thrust generator and displacement qualifier, energy converters run along pre-defined path. The left and right sides of the path is dissymmetrical, these two sides have asymmetric moments, which make the machine move perpetually. I think I know what you are talking about. A child on a swing changes their moment of inertia, and uses this plus an energy input from their muscles to amplify their swing without having an obvious thing to push off from. However, doing this does require energy. In your case, you are going to have to change the length of the arms for buoyant and heavy objects, and this is where your energy is going to be spent, nullifying your attempt at perpetual motion. Add in the energy required to change the arm lengths, and your machine becomes a non-perpetual friction machine, as required by the laws of physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bositong Posted July 30, 2010 Author Share Posted July 30, 2010 I think I know what you are talking about. A child on a swing changes their moment of inertia, and uses this plus an energy input from their muscles to amplify their swing without having an obvious thing to push off from. However, doing this does require energy. In your case, you are going to have to change the length of the arms for buoyant and heavy objects, and this is where your energy is going to be spent, nullifying your attempt at perpetual motion. Add in the energy required to change the arm lengths, and your machine becomes a non-perpetual friction machine, as required by the laws of physics. d First of all , I wanna say thank you for your interpretion of my designing. However the most obvious distinguish between the pre-perpetual motion and mine is that the length of energe converter can be changed spontaneously. The gravity balls was fixed by the axis, while there's a hollow duct in the ball, making the axis moves flexibly so it can be into or out of the gravity balls. As a result the moment of the ball is decided by the path we have designed. Congratulations. When will it go to mass production and be available on the market? it's hard to say, we are still making the model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timo Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) I think claiming a successful invention before having actually built a working version may be premature. In practice, the step from theory to practice is larger than in theory . Edited July 30, 2010 by timo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 *waves the friction flag again* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 no you haven't QFT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bositong Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 I think claiming a successful invention before having actually built a working version may be premature. In practice, the step from theory to practice is larger than in theory . Thank you, and I wanna say the reason that I announced my invention is not only to claim a success but also to share this idea with those wisdom and skeptic men~~(without them,no improvement) *waves the friction flag again* Actually, I'm a little bit confused by the so called classic view that unless there is no energe loss from friction the perpetual motion machine cannot roll permanently. No matter how my design is to force the gravity balls move , not to think about exterminating the friction. It is useless to just concern about the friction if I just want to apply this machine into manufacturing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Skeptic Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 it's hard to say, we are still making the model I've heard somewhere that knowing the laws of physics saves would-be inventors precious time and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Coppedge Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Interesting idea. SOMEONE should build one! All we need now is a successful over-unity / partial perpetual motion experiment! Like this image from Wikipedia, which does not require any additional change in altitude, a new accomplishment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdEarl Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 no you haven't QFT Perpetual motion is a seductive trap, and thousands, perhaps millions, have been seduced and tried to make one for may years. If you had studied physics, you would have taken a class that proved it is impossible. Basically, if you make one, then you would have overturned classical physics developed over more than a thousand years. Einstein used some very sophisticated mathematics, but did not overturn physics. You cannot make a mathematical model of your machine; you really think you have overturned physics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerx Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 it's hard to say, we are still making the model Without a diagram? If you can't draw it, you can't build it. If you haven't built it, you can't test it. If you haven't tested it, you can't claim it works. You can't even claim it works on theory on paper, because you haven't drawn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daecon Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 This thread was started six years ago, it doesn't look like the OP has been back since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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