Sayonara Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Using "psychics" to spy on other nations would be an act of war, Adam. Hence domestic "psychic" surveillance, if any.
Adam Posted January 24, 2003 Author Posted January 24, 2003 Psychic spying, does not violate any treaties, rules. Because it doesn't "exist " to begin with. Nice try, TRY HARDER rockefeller.
Adam Posted January 24, 2003 Author Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by fafalone The NSA is responsible for gathering domestic intelligence, and the CIA for foreign intelligence. Once again, you are mistaken. It's used for psychic spying on other nations, which involves C.I.A. , what would be the point of remotely viewing your country where you have access to all areas. Think about what you say FAF, use your brain wisely.
Adam Posted January 24, 2003 Author Posted January 24, 2003 You two are trying to prove your point, I respect that but you can't accept the fact, this is a C.I.A. and u.s. military program, does not involve NSA. So think about writing that letter and finding out for yourself zealot.
Giles Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Adam, Please make single statement derived from this theory of yours which would be demonstrably false if the theory were false, OR provide a link to a reliable source. Please bear in mind that statements not supported by logical, scientific or historical methodology are not grounded in an epistemology that sceptics (you seem to be confusing scepticism with dogmatic denial by the way) are likely to accept as reliable. I cannot find such a statement within what you have posted. The papers referenced appear to concern either standard freudian theory, or standard sensory/neural mapping theory, and these are not relevant to the bone of contention.
Sayonara Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by Adam Psychic spying, does not violate any treaties, rules. Because it doesn't "exist " to begin with. Nice try, TRY HARDER rockefeller. OK then I shall. Originally posted by Adam right hereThese are people who learn and then train how to tune in to this higher vibration by the use of meditation, or other mental protocols, and travel through the ether to spy on each other and on selected targets. You stated that people using the ether to spy on each other psychically could detect each other. Any nation using such persons as a part of their military or intelligence network could not on the one hand accept from their agents evidence of activities in other countries, yet on the other hand dismiss evidence of similar attacks against themselves. Since you also stated that information on this programme is freely available, there would be no domestic political mechanism preventing action being launched based on such information, treaties or no treaties. In fact, 'no treaties works' better.
Sayonara Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 This manual is a direct cut-and-paste job from here: http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/'>http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/answers/crvmanual/crvmanual-03.html'>http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/'>http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/answers/crvmanual/crvmanual-03.html http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/'>http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/ http://www.firedocs.com/
Sayonara Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 I'd also like to point out that the proposed abilities here are telepathic, not psychic.
aman Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 I saw a program on the coelocanth that might have a connection to remote viewing. The coelocanth had very primative pre-lungs, pre-heart, vena cava, pre-legs, and a gelatin mass in its head which is now suspected to be some sort of electrical field sensor. All of these evolved in the human to what we have now except for this electrical field sensor, maybe? We still don't understand all the relative functions of the brain yet and maybe this sense could have evolved also to give us a sense of things outside of our general area. Just for thought. Just aman
Sayonara Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Many marine animals have EM sensory capabilities, and we came from the sea. Go figure
Sayonara Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Who are you talking to and why are you bringing empathy into this?
Adam Posted January 24, 2003 Author Posted January 24, 2003 Ofcourse you will not find anything, Obtain information on your own, not other peoples wepages buddy.
fafalone Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Well since you claim it's available under the FOIA, it should be available on government web pages. Want to give me the publication number? I'll be happy to pull it. Or you can just make up a number again.
Sayonara Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by Adam Ofcourse you will not find anything, Obtain information on your own, not other peoples wepages buddy. :lock:
Adam Posted January 24, 2003 Author Posted January 24, 2003 Please bear in mind that statements not supported by logical, scientific or historical methodology are not grounded in an epistemology that sceptics (you seem to be confusing scepticism with dogmatic denial by the way) are likely to accept as reliable. C.I.A. is a reliable source of information.
Sayonara Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by Adam C.I.A. is a reliable source of information. Think about what you're saying here, General.
Giles Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 I think this was directed at me... Originally posted by Adam Ofcourse you will not find anything, Obtain information on your own, not other peoples wepages buddy. I will respond as a scientist should - with lots of 'postdictions' masquerading as predictions You are proposing this idea on a public discussion forum. I therefore propse two hypotheses, on the assumption you are rational - that you wish to either (i) convince us, or (ii) discuss the idea and receive criticism. If (i) then it is your business to convince me. This does not fit with your post. Hypothesis rejected. If (ii) then my post is irrelevant, unless interpreted to imply that there is no such evidence. In which case your reply does not constitute a relevant response to the criticism. Hypothesis rejected. Can anyone suggest a new hypothesis, or must I abandon my assumption?
Giles Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by Adam C.I.A. is a reliable source of information. Even if i accept this it doesn't actually have any relevance in the context of my post.
Sayonara Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by Giles I think this was directed at me... I will respond as a scientist should - with lots of 'postdictions' masquerading as predictions You are proposing this idea on a public discussion forum.... I hypothesise that he failed to read, or disregarded, this.
fafalone Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by Sayonara³ Who are you talking to and why are you bringing empathy into this? Sensing EM fields would be empathic, not telepathic (what psychics do)
Sayonara Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by fafalone Sensing EM fields would be empathic, not telepathic (what psychics do) I am shocked and dismayed, fafalone.
fafalone Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by Sayonara³ Many marine animals have EM sensory capabilities, and we came from the sea. Go figure et tu.
Sayonara Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by Sayonara³ This manual is a direct cut-and-paste job from here: http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/'>http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/answers/crvmanual/crvmanual-03.html'>http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/'>http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/answers/crvmanual/crvmanual-03.html http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/'>http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/ http://www.firedocs.com/
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