albertlee Posted August 21, 2004 Posted August 21, 2004 When I was watching a channel on Windows Media player, and I managed to download the 'linking' wmv file, and I open it with Ultra Edit to get the URL of where the real media file from...... but the address seems a bit strange: <asx version = "3.0"> <entry> <Ref href="mms://210.61.218.116/wms.media.hinet.net/d06/ctv/ctv_live/ctvlive.wmv?hicEC4C831A-1910-404E-9573-9AE820CCB6F6" /> <!-- NeTcAcHe inserted previous line --> <Ref href="mms://wms.media.hinet.net/d06/ctv/ctv_live/ctvlive.wmv?hicEC4C831A-1910-404E-9573-9AE820CCB6F6" /> </entry> </asx> and more over, the codes after the question mark seems some kind of ID, because it changes when I downloaded the wmv file at different time...... Can any body tell me how to download this media file? Albert
Sayonara Posted August 21, 2004 Posted August 21, 2004 Unless you can find some software that rips streams while you watch them, you'll have to ask the server admin for a copy.
5614 Posted August 21, 2004 Posted August 21, 2004 mms://210.61.218.116/wms.media.hinet.net/d06/ctv/ctv_live/ctvlive.wmv?hicEC4C831A-1910-404E-9573-9AE820CCB6F6 type that part into a internet explorer or whichever alternative you have, for me, it auto-loads windows media player, and asks for more permission rights, so i can edit the source, i clicked no, as i dont know what file this is! but if you know its a safe file, or your security isnt as high as mine, you can click yes, to give it the extra rights, and see what happens. once you have loaded the file, try 'file' 'save as' to save the file or 'file' 'add to media library' to download the file t your HDD
5614 Posted August 21, 2004 Posted August 21, 2004 why good luck? you sound asthough you doubt that it will work, do you? why? or was it just a general comment?
Sayonara Posted August 21, 2004 Posted August 21, 2004 It won't work. Watching streaming media is not the same as opening a file.
5614 Posted August 21, 2004 Posted August 21, 2004 yes obviously, but at the same time, once the file has presumably downloaded itself in a temportary state onto your HDD so you can view it, cant you save it? i dont know to be honest, but i thought it was a realistic guess! the file has to be somewhere! when it enters your system, why cant you save it?
Sayonara Posted August 21, 2004 Posted August 21, 2004 I don't think it does download a file. Hence the name "streaming media". Ask LuTze about server mount points for streams - he will have a better idea about how they are served.
albertlee Posted August 22, 2004 Author Posted August 22, 2004 hmmmm, as I have said, the codes after the question mark looks somehow like security ID, because now I dont have the permission to access that media any more, and I get to re download another wmv, to get another URL, the URL keeps on changing all the time???? why??????? Albert
albertlee Posted August 22, 2004 Author Posted August 22, 2004 And secondly, the method from 5614 is not working, because I dont have the permission to do "save as" on the "file" menu........
PerpetualYnquisitive Posted August 22, 2004 Posted August 22, 2004 http://www.wmrecorder.com/ It is made specifically to record streaming video and has a free demo.
Sayonara Posted August 22, 2004 Posted August 22, 2004 http://www.wmrecorder.com/ It is made specifically to record streaming video and has a free demo. In other words' date=' my first answer was correct. You can't use "save as" because WMP knows not to allow saving of .wmv files (indeed, there is no temporary file [i']to[/i] save). The number after the ? in the URL is a confirmation code to ensure your session is valid. It probably checks against an algorithm the player knows.
albertlee Posted August 22, 2004 Author Posted August 22, 2004 In other words' date=' my first answer was correct. You can't use "save as" because WMP knows not to allow saving of .wmv files (indeed, there is no temporary file [i']to[/i] save). The number after the ? in the URL is a confirmation code to ensure your session is valid. It probably checks against an algorithm the player knows. oh, that's why there is an URL in the wmv file.......... the wmv file is in the temporary file, but it is not the complete file I want, the complete one should be in asf format, right? Firstly, Can any one tell me what does it mean by "streaming"? Secondly, I feel it is very weird about why the URL of my wmv file is connecting to another wmv file which is the same URL of where I get them? because a wmv file is suposed to connect to an URL which is an asf format file...right? Albert
Sayonara Posted August 23, 2004 Posted August 23, 2004 Afaik the only local file that could be considered the ".wmv file" is simply an address that tells WMP where to look for the stream (unless of course you happen to have a local copy of a WMV file, such as one you encoded yourself. Streaming is the process of sending data in a continuous fashion, instead of in discrete lumps. With streaming media you are seeing the playback of the remote file (or indeed a live feed) "as it happens". I think asf and wmv are two different streaming file formats. You should find lots of info on WMV here: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/distribute.aspx
albertlee Posted August 23, 2004 Author Posted August 23, 2004 So It is impossible to find out the real path of the real file? Albert
Sayonara Posted August 23, 2004 Posted August 23, 2004 No, you already have the location of the file. The machine that is serving it is doing so in a fashion that only allows streaming. I don't know how you can possibly expect to be able to download the file without knowing how it is served.
albertlee Posted August 24, 2004 Author Posted August 24, 2004 Sayonara,so,.. if it is possible to download the file, then how? (what do you mean by how the file is served?) Albert
Sayonara Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streaming_media
albertlee Posted August 24, 2004 Author Posted August 24, 2004 but, Sayonara, it only tells what is streamming media, and the kinds of protocols the player connect to the server to get the media........... but nothing technically on computer,,,, only some difinitions...... Albert
Sayonara Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 Use the links on the page. That's what wikipedia is good for! It explains it better than I can.
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