JaKiri Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by Adam My point is not the election specifically. My point is that the conspiracy exists, and the more we choose not to participate in researching it, the more controlled we become and manipulated by those in power. Therefore a lot of Information will always be denied to us. Read The Illuminatus! Triology by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenel Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Adam, does mental illness run in your family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 kenel, that's not my quote, thats what sayonara said, but it's not the first time i've heard this, I don't need to know to a psychic because i'm a believer. But i hear people in school chit chatting , people that are prolly closed minded to any form of science ,after visiting the psychic, their whole view point changed. People go in with great smile, thinking it's a joke, and walk out with terror in their eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Psychics start out with things so general they apply to others, then rely on feedback of the subject and determine where to go from there. No mind reading is involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 I know that whatever form i use to express and explain the whole phenonenom to you, you will disaprove it and not accept it, Because the only way to understand is , is experiencing it, Before it my impression of it was same as yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Disprove it indeed. Thanks for admitted I've disproved you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by fafalone Psychics start out with things so general they apply to others, then rely on feedback of the subject and determine where to go from there. No mind reading is involved. did you go to one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Yeah. My mom dragged me to one once when I was younger. I pointed out the exact methods I just described. She said "you have to believe". So apparently she was only correct if I subjectively thought so. Objectively she was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 So objectively, you are quite wrong. You think you're right, but in the factual world, you are wrong. Just because you believe it doesn't make it true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 I was going to say, that there are real and hoax psychics, but its not gonna do any better ,just lead to further argument.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Just admit you're a cretin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by fafalone Just admit you're a cretin. He is actually correct about the possibility of real and hoaxes, but the question is why don't the so-called 'real' psychics agree to undergo scientific testing? The scientific method is merely a method to empirically verify the existance of phenomena and attempt to give an explanation for them, so if the real psychics did use the scientific method we would simply get better psychics. Unless they're not real of course, that might be an explanation of why they refuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted January 24, 2003 Author Share Posted January 24, 2003 Having seen Maria in action, I'm prepared to not immediately assume that all psychic claimants are fakers. But I'm not going to just assume things about them and then create elaborate conjectural systems in my head and start ramming them down peoples' throats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted January 24, 2003 Author Share Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by Adam My point is not the election specifically. My point is that the conspiracy exists, and the more we choose not to participate in researching it, the more controlled we become and manipulated by those in power. Therefore a lot of Information will always be denied to us. I don't think being denied information is one of your problems. In fact I'd feel better if you didn't have so much free information at your fingertips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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