5614 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 ok, this just sounds argumentative, but i promise it isnt, i've never had any spyware problems, yet there is obviously loop holes in IE, i've used IE, so why havent i got spyware over the last few years i've been using IE, well obviously spyware wasnt there a few years ago, but recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 ok, this just sounds argumentative, but i promise it isnt, i've never had any spyware problems, yet there is obviously loop holes in IE, i've used IE, so why havent i got spyware over the last few years i've been using IE, well obviously spyware wasnt there a few years ago, but recently? A combination of luck and browsing habits I suppose. That could carry you through ok, but to be honest there are a lot more reasons to move than to stay, and the first time something does happen it is likely to be a realllllly nasty and well-devised one that gets you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 i think when i know what im doing, i'll go wit IE, like for this site, but when im google searching random things, i'll use firefox, i have noticed that firefox seems to load pages, especially images/sounds/movies slower than IE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 When you go to a page several times it loads it a lot faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 only coz it stores all the data onto your HDD as *.tmp files, cookies and other crap which you dont really want on your system. i can now officially add, that for me, from 1st hand experience; firefox is slower than IE, only fractionally for a site such as this [although still noticeable] firefox is especially slower at images/audio/videos. maybe this is because of the security feature, which have to "scan" the page before loading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Says who it "scans" the page? It simply will not run anything that is nasty. IE will take controls that, say, open your CD drive and execute them, while Firefox will be rendering the page and will just ignore them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 i think when i know what im doing, i'll go wit IE, like for this site, but when im google searching random things, i'll use firefox, i have noticed that firefox seems to load pages, especially images/sounds/movies slower than IE From my experience, Firefox is far superior in both loading times (with quick load enabled) and rendering. I suppose it depends on your system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 What's Quick Load and how do I enable it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Says who it "scans" the page? It simply will not run anything that is nasty. IE will take controls that, say, open your CD drive and execute them, while Firefox will be rendering the page and will just ignore them. yeah, exatly, IE just lets all go. whereas firefox has to know whats good and whats bad, therefore its gotta work out whats good and whats bad, therefore its gotta look in the source code to see whats good and whats bad, this is what i meant by " 'scan' " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 From my experience, Firefox is far superior in both loading times (with quick load enabled) and rendering. I suppose it depends on your system. i cant see how it would change inter-system, even different OS would surely run it at the same speed, who knows?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 What's Quick Load and how do I enable it? um, i dont know, and its not in the firefox help either it probably works by storing MORE data on your HDD in *.tmp files and cookies, you probably have this enabled, which is why you said that once you've been to a page, it loads quicker the next time. it's a waste of HDD space, at the advantage of speed. its your choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 It basically keeps mozilla.exe running all the time, even when the browser isn't open - basically the same as what IE already does. This way, bringing up a new browser window doesn't mean loading the entire application every time. I use Mozilla, don't know whether the functionality is in Firefox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 so doesnt that only make firefox program load faster, not the actual internet pages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 yeah, exatly, IE just lets all go. whereas firefox has to know whats good and whats bad, therefore its gotta work out whats good and whats bad, therefore its gotta look in the source code to see whats good and whats bad, this is what i meant by " 'scan' "No. As it goes through the page and renders all of the stuff, it simply skips all of the bad. It doesn't even have commands that tell it what to do with it. It thinks that it's just stuff it doesn't need. Thus it doesn't make a difference.Let's give an example. You're reading a book. Some people read all of the page numbers, but you are faster because you skip all of the page numbers. You don't have to "scan" for them or anything. You just skip them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Firefox on mandrake is very very very fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inamorata Posted August 31, 2004 Author Share Posted August 31, 2004 I finally downloaded and installed Firefox and am running it right now. And I have to say, so far, the speed has impressed me immensly. And the tabbed browsing, and the applications, and the themes, Im really liking this browser. I still have IE running as Ive noticed some pages wont work with Firefox, but overall, I think its great. Thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSX Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 I finally downloaded and installed Firefox and am running it right now. And I have to say' date=' so far, the speed has impressed me immensly. And the tabbed browsing, and the applications, and the themes, Im really liking this browser. I still have IE running as Ive noticed some pages wont work with Firefox, but overall, I think its great. Thankyou [/quote'] Wait until you check out mozdev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 One of us One of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 my firefox still doesnt run as fast as IE, oh well and i also noticed that some sites wouldnt load with firefox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicMX Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Firefox is not the problems. could you (all) lsit the sites you cannot visit. The thing is that IE its integrated to the system, so all languajes and plug ins (many) are available for I.E. I haven't had troubles with accessing sites in GNU/Linux Slackware with Firefox. I finally downloaded and installed Firefox and am running it right now. And I have to say, so far, the speed has impressed me immensly. And you havent tryied it with linux... THIS is amaizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Has anybody downloaded 1.0PR yet? That's the latest/greatest. Any comments before I upgrade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicMX Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 is almost the same... but seems more stable..(thought version 9 was stable either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicMX Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 if you are in windows, i do recommend the upgrade, if you are in linux.... is not necesary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 if you are in windows, i do recommend the upgrade, if you are in linux.... is not necesary...Thanks, AtomicMX, I'll give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryan Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 When I click on a link in Outlook, both IE and Firefox opens the page. Any way to fix this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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