Dark matter-energy interactions

[Darkpassenger]

Dose dark matter interact with dark energy?

 

If so Can dark matter slow or contain dark energy?

[insane_alien]

only if dark energy interacts via gravity.

[Darkpassenger]

found part of my answer

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So if this is possible that dark matter can interact with dark energy, then it helps a theory I have been pondering. If dark matter has an effect on dark energy, then it might be possible that dark energy could be contained my dark matter if it were densely compacted. If this is possible, it brings a curios idea to mind. What if we had at the time before the big bang a state where dark matter was containing dark energy and all energy for that matter in a sphere or field that was tightly compacted. This sphere could then expand and contract Dark matter but would be sable enough to contain the energy. Although as we would find out it could not contain it forever (big bang) which was good for us, sort of. The reasons I would imagine it blew apart would be because there could have been an imbalance between the dark matter and energy. Maybe the amount of energy increased drastically or slowly over time where it would have expanded the sphere to its breaking point. Or maybe the amount of dark matter decreased/decade enough to loose its hold over the dark energy. Well its just a half assed theory but i thought I would throw it out there and see if it gets picked apart.

Edited August 8, 2010 by Darkpassenger

[pioneer]

Dark matter and dark energy are inferred but not substantiated. Entropy considerations can explain much of what we attribute to dark matter and dark energy.

 

To increase entropy we need to add energy. If we expand a gas, the temperature will lower near the expanding gas. Using entropy, the original energy in the space near the expanding gas appears to disappear in the dark. If this was 100M light years away, you might not be able to see entropy changes, but we might notice the gravity shift.

 

If we lower entropy, energy can be given off from what appears to be nothing; mass balance is the same. At 100M light years, it might look like energy just transformed from dark matter/energy or teleported from another dimension, both of which sound more exciting.

 

If we go back to the beginning of the BB, the theory is we start with extreme particle states and substructure. In the accelerator, none of these last very long. As such, based on this lab observation, a simple phase change from this short lived extreme matter, into matter that lasts such as protons, electrons and neutrons, represents an extreme lowering of entropy. The quarks are now stuck in little containers for billions of years. This phase change into lowered entropy means a lot of energy output. This extreme energy is now the fuel for other extreme entropy, but now using the new stable matter/energy. The superstructure of the universe combined with fast forming stars implies gravity at work at the same time we have all this entropy energy release. That means all the entropy energy is not spreading uniformly. There is more energy for less bulk entropy. This sounds different than just exotic matter cooling into hydrogen, without the extreme entropy phase change consideration, and then using dark matter and energy to take the place of the phase change energy.

 

I got this idea while observing small dark clouds in the Florida sky a few years ago. These little dark clouds occur even when there were few clouds in the sky, thereby factoring out shadows from larger clouds causing this dark cloud effect. The little dark cloud is increasing entropy and absorbing the ambient light energy; not reflecting it. This is easy for water, since it can form up to four hydrogen bonds but can also form as few as one to remain associated. One would not see such dark clouds at 100M light years, but one might notice an anti-gravity looking effect absorbing energy. This is not a dark matter cloud but is simply white matter following the second law. If we then add gravity to lower this accumulated entropy in our dark cloud, one would expect an energy output beyond just the gravity considerations. That extra is all dependent on the starting entropy.

[Darkpassenger]

So dark matter and energy are a byproduct of the entropy fluctuations ?

[ajb]

Dose dark matter interact with dark energy?

 

Dark energy can be thought of as the cosmological constant in the Einstein Field Equations, or as some extra scalar field. Either way both effect gravity. Of course they need to.

 

As dark matter interacts gravitationally, as does all matter there will be some gravtiational interaction with dark energy what ever that truly is.

 

So, that is established the question now is in the details.

[peadmore]

The concepts of dark energy and dark matter have been brought into being to try to answer the many problematic questions thrown up by the big bang theory. There are alternatives to this theory and some of them expalin the evidence without dark matter or dark energy. sadly they don't get past the scrutiny of the almost religious like inquisitors of peer review inquisition. The apparent expansion of the universe can be easily explained if the universe is a super fluidic singularity, much the same as is claimed for the quark soup of the early big bang model and there is no need for dark matter or energy. In this case there was no beginning; there will be no end and entropy is a local and relative phenomena.

[TheTheoretician]

Dark energy is theoretically within dark matter, as dark matter is within visible energy (explaining quark color confinement, black holes, empirical undetectability of dark matter, formation of stars), as visible energy is within visible matter (explaining electromagnetism, precession, formation of planets). At least this is how the ultimate theory explains it.

 

Peace,

 

Ik@TheTheoretician

[swansont]

Dark energy is theoretically within dark matter, as dark matter is within visible energy (explaining quark color confinement, black holes, empirical undetectability of dark matter, formation of stars), as visible energy is within visible matter (explaining electromagnetism, precession, formation of planets). At least this is how the ultimate theory explains it.

 

Peace,

 

Ik@TheTheoretician

 

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[Airbrush]

[Does] dark matter interact with dark energy?

 

If so Can dark matter slow or contain dark energy?

 

Yes they intereact. Dark matter clumps regions and dark energy pushes those regions apart.

 

Apparently DM cannot "slow or contain" DE because we can measure the expansion of the universe is accelerating.

Edited August 19, 2010 by Airbrush