nec209 Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) I don't want to hijack the other thread so I posted it in a new thread. I was reading on wikipedia and some articles that some doctors and resarchers believe it may be environment or learned behavior. The theory going around is a learnt behavior ,trauma experience ,exposure or experience to a person to have such a desire.Well there are hundreds and hundreds of fetish it can not be all genes poiting to that fetsh .Also gays ,lesbian, transexual and bisexuality was a taboo 50 years ago it was illegal. Other psychiatrist believe it can be frustration a person has a high sex drive and cannot have sex or look at porn so may bridge into other things to fulfill the desire. No doctors or resarchers seem to know much about this other than some theory going around Where do fetishes come from? "It's a complicated answer, to be addressed on an individual basis," says Barnaby Barratt, Ph.D., a sex therapist and president-elect of the American Association of Sex Educators, Counselors and Therapists. Though the cause is unknown, experts theorize that an experience with masturbation as a young child - often one that has been long forgotten - could develop into a fetish for an object that serves as a subconscious reminder. For more on fetishes, see Fetishism. More information here. http://healthguide.howstuffworks.com/fetishes-and-other-sexual-preferences-dictionary.htm Modern psychology assumes that fetishism either is being conditioned or imprinted or the result of a strong emotional (i.e., traumatic) experience. Physical factors like brain construction and heredity are also considered possible explanations. In the following, the most important theories are presented in chronological order: Alfred Binet suspected fetishism was the pathological result of associations. Accidentally simultaneous presentation of a sexual stimulus and an inanimate object, thus his argument, led to the object being permanently connected to sexual arousal. About 1900, a sexologist named Havelock Ellis brought up the revolutionary idea that already in early childhood erotic feelings emerged and that it was the first experience with its own body that determined a child's sexual orientation. Psychiatrist Richard von Krafft-Ebing consented to Binet's theory in 1912, recognizing that it predicted the observed wide variety of fetishes but unsure why these particular associations persisted over the whole of a lifetime while other associations changed or faded. In his eyes, the only possible explanation was that fetishists suffered from pathological sexual degeneration and hypersensitivity.[citation needed] Sexologist Magnus Hirschfeld followed another line of thought when he proposed his theory of partial attractiveness in 1920. According to his argument, sexual attractiveness never originates in a person as a whole but always is the product of the interaction of individual features. He stated that nearly everyone had special interests and thus suffered from a healthy kind of fetishism, while only detaching and overvaluing of a single feature resulted in pathological fetishism. Today, Hirschfeld's theory is often mentioned in the context of gender role specific behavior: females present sexual stimuli by highlighting body parts, clothes or accessories; males react to them. More at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_fetishism charles darwin would say a species most propagate to have offsprings so the male species would try to mate with has much female species has possible to have offsprings and the desire part of evolution to make sure the male will mate has much has possible. Related thread Is homosexuality a mental illness? http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/48358-is-homosexuality-a-mental-illness/ Edited August 11, 2010 by nec209
PhDwannabe Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) Uhhhh... I'm curious about your question or your topic of discussion. Do you mean to ask: 1) Is homosexuality a fetish, or similar to fetishism? 2) Is homosexuality a learned behavior/choice or is it inherited, or something between the two? 3) Is homosexuality a mental illness? If it's any of these, with some level of fatigue at this sort of line of inquiry, I'll go ahead and register the answers of 1) No, not with any halfway rigorous conceptualization of these concepts 2) Some combination of the two, (although people don't fully define their terms when they ask this, and it's thus generally nonsense; furthermore, it doesn't really matter for most purposes, anyway) 3) No Somebody with the energy to explain any of this is welcome to. It's one hell of a dead horse. Edited August 11, 2010 by PhDwannabe
nec209 Posted August 11, 2010 Author Posted August 11, 2010 You need to learn to read the subject title ((( homosexuality or fetish in the genes or environment , learned behavior ))
Sayonara Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 While I think it would be very difficult to make the case that "being gay" is a fetish, what we find when we look at adult sexual behaviours is that there is a surprisingly high incidence of straight men who fantasise about or actively take part in sexual activities that we would strongly associate with homosexual males. I think it's important to acknowledge the difference between an activity and a state of being; one lends itself to being described in terms of fetish; the other not so much.
nec209 Posted October 30, 2010 Author Posted October 30, 2010 While I think it would be very difficult to make the case that "being gay" is a fetish, what we find when we look at adult sexual behaviours is that there is a surprisingly high incidence of straight men who fantasise about or actively take part in sexual activities that we would strongly associate with homosexual males. I think it's important to acknowledge the difference between an activity and a state of being; one lends itself to being described in terms of fetish; the other not so much. Taboo !! People may have been gay or had fetish but was a taboo to talk about it.Now people are coming out and talking about it.Even today it is still a taboo but the they are trying.
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