Hydrogen Peroxide

[budullewraagh]

actually not really. depending on the concentration and volume of your sulfuric and the volume of your peroxide what you'd get is a very, very dilute mixture of a little sulfuric acid, a little hydrogen peroxide and a bit of peroxymonosulfuric acid (pirahna bath). it's not worth it if you use such low conc peroxide

[Primarygun]

Is hydrogen peroxide an enzyme?

Enzyme can be inorganic?

[r1dermon]

so basically i'd have to extract that h2o2 from the water...hmm...are there any other safe ways of making such a potent acid? also, why would it be so diluted? i imagine that that addition of h2o would make the acid stronger, feeding off of the additional hydrogen...?

[5614]

such a potent acid will never be any safer than any other potent acid,

 

addition of h20 to an acid would not make it stronger, even if there is more H

[dryan]

http://yarchive.net/chem/piranha_solution.html

An interesting (and scary) read.

[budullewraagh]

Is hydrogen peroxide an enzyme?

nope, but it's a strong oxidizing agent.

 

so basically i'd have to extract that h2o2 from the water

in normal water there is no [math]H_2O_2[/math]

 

such a potent acid will never be any safer than any other potent acid,

 

addition of h20 to an acid would not make it stronger, even if there is more H

well, the peroxide makes it a strong oxidizer and a little less concentrated (acidically speaking)

[r1dermon]

in normal water there is no H2O2

 

i understand, but i would have to buy "hydrogen peroxide" from a supermarket or something so that i could retrieve a more potent solution.

[budullewraagh]

buy it from salons; they have 30%

[Gilded]

So the 30% solution is the one they use in hair dying?

[r1dermon]

no chem supply store will carry 100%? lol...

[budullewraagh]

yeah, 30% is used in hair dying. i purchased some 40% in a salon store about an hour ago. it's the consistency of shampoo though, sadly.

 

anybody who has 100% conc of any peroxide is insane. theyre madly powerful oxidizing agents. remember, over 70% and contact with organics and/or metals and/or other reducing agents may blow it all up

[Lance]

yeah, 30% is used in hair dying. i purchased some 40% in a salon store about an hour ago. it's the consistency of shampoo though, sadly.

 

 

Yea, I had some of that a while ago. I was disappointed though and gave it to my brother.

 

Any idea what else is in it?

 

By the way I have about 5ml of unfreezable H2O2, any idea what purity that is?

[budullewraagh]

any idea what purity that is?

pretty close to 100%. BE VERY CAREFUL WITH IT. do not touch reducing agents with it.

 

the peroxide i got tonight had various otehr wax things in it.

[5614]

any ideas as to how you can get rid of the other waxy things?

 

By the way I have about 5ml of unfreezable H2O2, any idea what purity that is?

how cold have you tried freezing it?

[Lance]

Less that 0C, more than -30C. I have no way to accurately measure the temperature.

[YT2095]

the peroxide used in dental surgerys are 30%+ and have no contaminants or conditioners in it

and that`s PERCENT, NOT Vols!

30 Vols is only 9%

[5614]

well if it wont freeze at less than 0C then it is probably pretty pure H2O2, why dont you try and blow it up or something, what else can you do with it?

maybe a nice reducing agent will do the trick *evil smile*

[YT2095]

why dont you try and blow it up or something' date=' what else can you do with it?

maybe a nice reducing agent will do the trick *evil smile*[/quote']

there`s plenty other things you can do with it if you`re into blowing things up, but lets not go there!

[jsatan]

I'd like to know some uses other than "Boom ouch wheres my finger gone".

 

I know its good for growing hydroponics plants for their roots, lol. (my hobby).

 

But apart from that I wouldnt know, anyone???

[Gilded]

Well why don't you try the piranha solution and pour it on a pine table. That's what I would do. Or maybe you could catch a squirrel and bleach its fur. Though that would probably make the other squirrels laugh at him. :/

[boris_73]

I'd like to know some uses other than "Boom ouch wheres my finger gone".

 

I know its good for growing hydroponics plants for their roots' date=' lol. (my hobby).

 

But apart from that I wouldnt know, anyone???[/quote']

if you do hydroponics where do you get your nitric acid from for the use as a ph down

[YT2095]

if you do hydroponics where do you get your nitric acid from for the use as a ph down

HUH??? this is the H2O2 thread, not the nitric acid one

 

as for the PH, many of the salts used in Hydroponics are acidic, Super-Phos (calcium Hydrogen Phosphate) for example has a low PH.

 

in fact a PH of between 6.6 and 7 is preff for quite a few plants (although they need flushing with neutral occasionaly to prevent salt build up).

[boris_73]

lol yes nitric acid is used as a ph down for when plants are just starting to grow when they are buds its genrally around 30% ive seen a 1ltr for £4.50 but it might have some impurites such as phosphate

[YT2095]

well that`s news to me! where did you see this product in the UK?

 

and 30%? are you SURE!?

[boris_73]

i think the web sites called http://www.growell.co.uk under the search button type in nitric acid