TiI4 Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 I want to Syntesis TiCl4, here I find this reaction: TiO2 + 2Cl2 + C > TiCl4 + CO2 I know that this reaction occurs around 900 degree celcius. If you think that this reaction is possible with borosilicate glassware please tell my. 30122929-Titanium-Compounds-Inorganic.pdf
mississippichem Posted September 12, 2010 Posted September 12, 2010 (edited) I want to Syntesis TiCl4, here I find this reaction: TiO2 + 2Cl2 + C > TiCl4 + CO2 I know that this reaction occurs around 900 degree celcius. If you think that this reaction is possible with borosilicate glassware please tell my. 30122929-Titanium-Compounds-Inorganic.pdf I've always been told by professors that borosilicate glassware reaches its "softening" point around 800-830 C. So I wouldn't try it. The titanium dioxide will still be solid at this temperature, but I still wouldn't want a room full of chlorine (the product will also be a nasty hot, volatile liquid). I bet there's a way to catalyze this reaction at a lower temperature... EDIT: 830 C, not 330 C, sorry Edited September 12, 2010 by mississippichem
John Cuthber Posted September 12, 2010 Posted September 12, 2010 Wiki also says it will soften at about 820C. In principle, you could use fused quartz but is it really worth it? I'm pretty sure it would be easier to prepare it from Ti metal scrap and Cl2. Even then you are still going to be playing with hot chlorine and TiCl4 - both are bad for you.
TiI4 Posted September 12, 2010 Author Posted September 12, 2010 (edited) I wanted to do this reaction with a type of test tube under an atmosphere of chlorine under pressure (because of the production of chlorine, which is produced in an Erlenmeyer flask) at 900 degree Celsius and condensing the gas into another test tube which has at -20 degrees Celsius. I know the hazard of chlorine, titanium dioxide and TiCl4. Edited September 12, 2010 by TiI4
mississippichem Posted September 13, 2010 Posted September 13, 2010 I wanted to do this reaction with a type of test tube under an atmosphere of chlorine under pressure (because of the production of chlorine, which is produced in an Erlenmeyer flask) at 900 degree Celsius and condensing the gas into another test tube which has at -20 degrees Celsius. I know the hazard of chlorine, titanium dioxide and TiCl4. You're making the chlorine in situ? That's two hazardous reactions going on at the same time, brave.
John Cuthber Posted September 13, 2010 Posted September 13, 2010 I wanted to do this reaction with a type of test tube under an atmosphere of chlorine under pressure (because of the production of chlorine, which is produced in an Erlenmeyer flask) at 900 degree Celsius and condensing the gas into another test tube which has at -20 degrees Celsius. I know the hazard of chlorine, titanium dioxide and TiCl4. OK, so you plan to use chlorine under pressure in a tube about 80 degrees above it's melting point then magically stop it all disappearing onto a cold trap. And you think you know about the hazards. Would you understand if I were to say that I think that you don't know about the hazards and, until you do, you shouldn't try this.
TiI4 Posted September 13, 2010 Author Posted September 13, 2010 be watching the comments, I think I'll do a test in a test tube filled with chlorine , the gas formed will condense in another test tube, the gas that will not be condensing (chlorine CO2 and a bit of TiCl4) will be dissolved in water is 3-5 degrees Celsius because TiCl4 reacts violently with the water has a temperature of 15 degrees Celsius and higher.
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