r1dermon Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 75:15:10 with JUST charcoal will be a lot sweeter than any sugar comp. especially if you can get it really fine, most KNO3 doesnt come too fine. get a rock tumbler and throw in a dozen marbles, that works great. leave that on for a couple hours...the finer the powder, the better the blaze. dont expect to make some really explosive powder though, the mix ratio for that is like...molecular precision. 67:23:10 works in my rockets with sugar. but burned pine cones are a ton better.
boris_73 Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 potassium/sodium nitrate and ammonium nitrate is also sold at http://www.gardenchemicals.co.uk just thought you might want to know thats where i got my first batch of potassium nitrate
YT2095 Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 my ammonium nitrate comes in 25kg bags also, but it`s more than I can use on my land, so normaly me and some friends share the cost and the product, I`ll prolly use no more than 5 kilo a season, so it pays to share and NO, I`ll NOT supply it, before anyone asks!
boris_73 Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 im not botherd about you supplying it but where do you get yours from my next door neighbours a farmer so if i ask him he just gives me about a couple of kg which lasts me months,he is a brilliant neighbour
YT2095 Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 I`m on the commitee of an allotment association, I can get alsorts
bloodhound Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 can't you get arrested under suspician of terrorism, if you buy large amounts of ammounium nitrate?
boris_73 Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 i dont think so unless its a new law but i dont buy large amounts i rarley use it if so its yt who should be worrying
YT2095 Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 yup, if it was LARGE amounts (25kgs not large considering the circs). not only that, there`s no charges that could be made to stick (to us anyway) we have a genuine use and no terrorist affiliations (that I know of) so yeah maybe I`de get questioned "Why do you have a 25kg sack of (whatever) in your shed" but they`de soon notice that I`m hardly the terrorist type and have good reason for such materials not only that, but my shed`s half kitchen anyway (even got a little spice rack in there)
YT2095 Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 i dont think so unless its a new law but i dont buy large amounts i rarley use it if so its yt who should be worrying LOL, we regularly have the police on site (vandals) I`ve stood next to a bag of the stuff smoking a cig and had a good old chat with them, they KNOW we`re not the problem
r1dermon Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 potassium perchlorate works awesome as well, but i have no idea about the ratios with that as the oxidizer. mostly its used in solid rocket fuels. i think NASA used it on the booster stages for the shuttle.
Gilded Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 Umm, doesn't potassium chlorate/perchlorate + aluminum powder make flash powder in a ratio of about 7/3?
boris_73 Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 yes it does as well as using aluminium you can use magnisium but perchlorates are safer then chlorates and guess where you can get them from except united nuclear....http://www.kno3.com
Gilded Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 Doesn't magnesium produce a bright light effect with a lesser *boom*, and aluminum a less-bright effect with more *boom*?
boris_73 Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 i carnt say i have ever heard of that magnisium is better because it gives a much brighter effect the booming sound is the cardboard tube breaking so i would say no to the boom effect but yes to the brightness effect
budullewraagh Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 yeah, oxidizing mg is some fearsome stuff
YT2095 Posted September 18, 2004 Posted September 18, 2004 potassium perchlorate works awesome as well, but i have no idea about the ratios with that as the oxidizer. mostly its used in solid rocket fuels. i think NASA used it on the booster stages for the shuttle. they use Ammonium Perchlorate and alu with a rubber binding agent
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