red to blue doppler affect

[36grit]

According to the accepted theories:

If we were sitting still in a space ship watching a galaxie move away from us, and then fired up the engine and started traveling towards this same galaxie, would we be able to watch the red shift turn to blue? Would we see the light in it's "natural" color when we reached a velocity of zero?

 

Is it possible that we, (in the space ship) could be observing a blue shift while beings on a planet, that we were passing, could be experiencing the same light as a red shift?

[Sisyphus]

Yes, yes, and yes.

[36grit]

So, one might reason that the light wave itself does not change. In the instant of time where the the space ship and the planet are the same distance from the galaxie, they both experience different results. Therefore: Distance or space is also irrelevant.

Therefore one might reason that:

All three bodies must be experiencing seperate moments of present time, defined by the momentum of their own past, that is reflecting a future as color according to the distance direction to be achieved in the next instant of present time.

In other words, the color of the light observed is a matter of the interactions of the seperate time dialation waves of the three seperate bodies involved.

 

Or ?

[Sisyphus]

So, one might reason that the light wave itself does not change. In the instant of time where the the space ship and the planet are the same distance from the galaxie, they both experience different results. Therefore: Distance or space is also irrelevant.

 

Not exactly. The light wave itself is red in one frame of reference, and blue in the other. It is in fact a property of the light itself.

 

Also, note that the distance is not the same in both reference frames. When the ship is next to the planet, observers on the planet and on the ship will disagree as to how far away the galaxy is. And they would both be correct.

 

Therefore one might reason that:

All three bodies must be experiencing seperate moments of present time, defined by the momentum of their own past, that is reflecting a future as color according to the distance direction to be achieved in the next instant of present time.

In other words, the color of the light observed is a matter of the interactions of the seperate time dialation waves of the three seperate bodies involved.

 

Or ?

 

I don't understand any of the above. It seems like word salad.

[36grit]

Not exactly. The light wave itself is red in one frame of reference, and blue in the other. It is in fact a property of the light itself.

 

Also, note that the distance is not the same in both reference frames. When the ship is next to the planet, observers on the planet and on the ship will disagree as to how far away the galaxy is. And they would both be correct.

 

GR and I think I understand what your saying. The planet and the space ship are experiencing two different references or "frames" of time, that is directly related to the color of the light and the distances calculated.

 

More Salad:

Time and distance must be extremely volitile. Able to divide and redefine itself with any and every motion, relative to any and everything.

[36grit]

The only way I can visualize this doppler affect and general relativity being possible is that: each individual piece of mass must be radiating time and space that is collected and transferred through larger bodies of mass forming a matrix of space/time waves radiating out and to every point in the universe. The space ship and the planet are calculating and seeing the galaxie in their own time frame interfierence patterns. The time wave matrix being observed by the planet are stretched out while the matrix of the space ship are compressed.

I guess at one hundred percent compression (velocity = c on the same plane in space) a time dialation must occur. Like water turning to steam time would expand into distance.

[alpha2cen]

Does the high blue shift increase energy consumption when the space craft moving to the galaxy?

Edited January 31, 2011 by alpha2cen