LuTze Posted September 28, 2004 Posted September 28, 2004 I've not seen much about this either because it's really new or people just aren't interested, but: - http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20040928%2F0515512476.htm&sc=1104&flok=NW_5-L2&floc=NW_1-T http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3696092.stm Seems pretty significant to me.
Phi for All Posted September 28, 2004 Posted September 28, 2004 Physicist Michio Kaku warns in his book Hyperspace that it is the small countries with nuclear capabilities we have to worry about if we are to survive our discovery of the properties of uranium. The Russians, the US, the UK and a few others have improved radically in their social growth, but not enough in context with the millionfold increase nuclear weapons provide in terms of mass destruction capability. Small countries who have only had the bomb a short time haven't had the social growth needed to keep their fingers far enough away from the buttons. They may see dwindling resources and fewer opportunities for power and advancement as detrimental to their future and are much more likely to feel that their backs are against the wall, with offensive nuclear weapons as their only recourse. Aggressive superpowers are just going to make it more likely that they feel threatened.
5614 Posted September 28, 2004 Posted September 28, 2004 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/world/2003/nuclear_fuel_cycle/mining/default.stm is quite interseting. not much is heard about north korea because there is little connection with it. north koreans dont know anything about the 'outside' world, and the 'outside' world know little about what happens in the country. and with nuclear powers, this becomes a major problem.
budullewraagh Posted September 28, 2004 Posted September 28, 2004 yep, the north is silent, but carries a bloody huge stick
5614 Posted September 28, 2004 Posted September 28, 2004 that picture seems unreal, why is it soooo quiet? (or dark?)
Douglas Posted September 28, 2004 Posted September 28, 2004 that picture seems unreal, why is it soooo quiet? (or dark?) Have you ever seen the whole world dark at the same time?????
budullewraagh Posted September 28, 2004 Posted September 28, 2004 well, we all know it was photoshopped because the world is never completely dark like that
Pangloss Posted September 29, 2004 Posted September 29, 2004 Come to think on it, the pic I linked above does look Photoshopped. I just googled it up without paying much attention, being a familiar subject to me. The one on this page looks a little more realistic, and has supporting text. http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=87488
budullewraagh Posted September 29, 2004 Posted September 29, 2004 i see a light in north korea! can you see it?
Pangloss Posted September 29, 2004 Posted September 29, 2004 Yeah that's why I thought it was a little more realistic. Presumably that's Pyongyang, which if 60 Minutes is right is the only really developed area in the whole country. (shrug)
bloodhound Posted September 29, 2004 Posted September 29, 2004 who know. maybe they have a curfew, or a blackout every night
Douglas Posted September 29, 2004 Posted September 29, 2004 i see a light in north korea! can you see it? I see it, but can't make out if it's a 60W or 100W bulb.
budullewraagh Posted September 29, 2004 Posted September 29, 2004 north korea isn't highly developed...but they have an army of 6.3 million and nukes, so they are not to be taken lightly
Phi for All Posted September 29, 2004 Posted September 29, 2004 I see it, but can't make out if it's a 60W or 100W bulb.ROFL! Unfortunately, I think it's the afterglow of 8000 spent nuclear fuel rods. Doesn't it sound like China is a bit peeved with them lately, or is that just for show?
Douglas Posted September 29, 2004 Posted September 29, 2004 ROFL! Unfortunately' date=' I think it's the afterglow of 8000 spent nuclear fuel rods. Doesn't it sound like China is a bit peeved with them lately, or is that just for show?[/quote'] I think they're peeved too. I think China might put some pressure on them. China has a lot to lose.....when was the last time you bought anything that wasn't made in china. I don't know what our trade deficit is with China, but it's got to be big.
Phi for All Posted September 29, 2004 Posted September 29, 2004 north korea isn't highly developed...but they have an army of 6.3 million and nukes, so they are not to be taken lightlyBut if they don't have China backing them up, their credibility is much less. We just have to hope they're not crazy enough to start something without their bigger, older brother's help.
budullewraagh Posted September 29, 2004 Posted September 29, 2004 when was the last time you bought anything that wasn't made in china. today, actually, but a better question to ask would be "when was the last time you bought something that hadn't come through hong kong?" china probably wont back north korea in a war, even though they have always defended korea like a brother (noryang point ring a bell? how about the korean war?). still, china could easily make the us back off without actually drawing a blade.
LuTze Posted September 29, 2004 Author Posted September 29, 2004 china probably wont back north korea in a warChina have a treaty to protect North Korea. Should anyone attack them, China will join in. This is one of the reasons the US sat in South Korea haven't already attacked.
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