james-p Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 to calculate the energy released from a deutiriume tritium fusion to creat helium4 with a neutron do take the MeV from deutirium and add it to tritium the substact the MeV from He4 and the total left would be the energy your gaining? ex H2 MeV is 1.2 + H3 MeV is 2.9 =4.1 and He4 MeV is 7.1 so 7.1 - 4.1 = 3 soo 3 is he amount of energy your liberating? is this right or is their a difrent formula? and in this link how does he get difrent binding energy compared to the graphic? thanks james Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 In the video the binding energy values are 2 MeV, 8 MeV and 28 MeV, but the approach is right. The difference in the binding energy of the reactants and products tells you the energy released or required for the reaction to occur. You get the BE by reading off the graph or by taking the mass of the nucleons and subtracting the mass of the resulting nucleus, and multiplying it all by c^2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james-p Posted March 9, 2011 Author Share Posted March 9, 2011 but wher does he get 2MeV 8MeV and 28MeV thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 but wher does he get 2MeV 8MeV and 28MeV thanks From the graph, or from the calculation I described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james-p Posted March 9, 2011 Author Share Posted March 9, 2011 but on the graph it shows that deutirium is 1.2 mev and not 2 and tritium 2.9 mev not 8 did i solv the equation right if not could you show me how to thnx 2.0136 + 3.0160492 = 4.002602 + 1.008647668 D T He-4 5.0296492 = 5.011249668 D+T He-4 + N 5.0296492 - 5.011249668 = 0.018399532 D+T He-4 + N E=MC^2 =0.00000000000000000000000000003055kg x (3x10^8ms^-1)^2 D T c^2 =0.00000000000000000000000000003055kg x (3x 10^8ms^-1) x (3x10^8ms^-1) =0.00000000000000000000000000003055kg x (9x10^16m^2s^-2) =0.00000000000000000000000000003055kg x (9x10^16) kg m^2 s^-2 = 0.00000000000000000000000000003055kg x 90000000000000000 kg m^2 s^-2 =0.0000000000027495MeV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 but on the graph it shows that deutirium is 1.2 mev and not 2 and tritium 2.9 mev not 8 did i solv the equation right if not could you show me how to thnx 2.0136 + 3.0160492 = 4.002602 + 1.008647668 The curve is binding energy per nucleon — you have to multiply by the number of nucleons, as the video instructed. The numbers were approximate, but deuterium has 2 nucleons, so the total BE is ~ 2 MeV. For the calculation, those numbers are in atomic mass units. You can go directly into MeV by using c^2 = ~931.5 MeV/amu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james-p Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 ok so if i have a mass of 0.00000000000000000000000000003055kg how can i convert this into MeV energy using E=MC2 could you show me the calcules becaus idont think i did it the right way thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 There are Avogadros number of atomic mass units in a gram, or 6.02 x 10^26 in a kg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james-p Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 soo how do you solve the equation when i put the number in it tells me their is only 0.000000000002745697071845 joules and not 18 MeV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 soo how do you solve the equation when i put the number in it tells me their is only 0.000000000002745697071845 joules and not 18 MeV You could take the definition of electron-Volt and do a unit conversion. (1 Volt = 1 Joule/Coulomb) Do you know what the fundamental charge is, in Coulombs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james-p Posted March 11, 2011 Author Share Posted March 11, 2011 thanks i finally figures it out is this right E=MC^2 = 0.00000000000000000000000000003055kg x (299792458)^2m/s =0.00000000000000000000000000003055kg x 89875517900000000 m/s =0.000000000002745697071845 J And 0.00000000000016021765 J equals to 1 MeV so 0.000000000002745697071845 J / 0.00000000000016021765 J equals to 17.137294622939482635028038421485 MeV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Your next step should be to learn about significant digits in calculations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james-p Posted March 11, 2011 Author Share Posted March 11, 2011 alredy did,all digits after the last number are ussless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 = 0.00000000000000000000000000003055kg x (299792458)^2m/s You only haver four significant digits here, so you should only have four at the end. (Also, learning scientific notation will ultimately help you in calculations. e.g. 3.055 x 10^-29 kg Dropping or adding a leading zero is really easy, and will give you the wrong answer.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james-p Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 so it sould be 3.055 x 10^-29 kg x 2997 x 10^5 = 9.155^-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Pretty much. c could be expressed as 2.997 x 10^8; you usually only have one number to the left of the decimal point, but it's not absolutely required. It's a huge help if you don't have a calculator handy, since the exponents merely add together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james-p Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 ok thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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