Cap'n Refsmmat Posted October 2, 2004 Posted October 2, 2004 Now that I'm using one Mozilla product (Firefox) I'd like to hear what's so good about Thunderbird, their e-mail client. Pros and cons, please. Outlook currently is not working anyways...
Sayonara Posted October 2, 2004 Posted October 2, 2004 It handles IMAP properly and has a lovely folder column thingy. And of course it uses extensions. And it's secure.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted October 3, 2004 Author Posted October 3, 2004 It handles IMAP properly and has a lovely folder column thingy. And of course it uses extensions. And it's secure. We all knew that it would be more secure. But how good is its spam filter? And is it buggy? What makes Outlook so bad compared to it? (apart from security)
Sayonara Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 Spam filter is great, it can also learn what makes junk mail junk as you mark things "spam" and "not spam". It is not buggy in the least. Outlook is poor by comparison because it is crammed with features that a mail client doesn't need, but lacking features that you'd expect to be associated with an application that is primarily for organising mail. However if you do need the integrated calendar-contacts-to do list etc, Thunderbird isn't the best way to go because it is only for mail.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted October 3, 2004 Author Posted October 3, 2004 Okay, good, and some more questions: What features does it have that are useful? What does features does it need that you CAN'T get an extension for? What makes it more secure? How quick is it to start? Is it easily configurable and easy to figure out how to use? Can you make mail rules to filter out those dumb chain letters and such? (i.e. people who you do not want to put on the "spam" list because they send useful stuff, but also send chain letters you don't want) What sort of extensions are essential? (sorry to grill you like this, it's just that outlook stinks. Every time I start it up it gives me a runtime error and I have to try again, and then it works...)
Sayonara Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 I'm too busy to sit here telling you things you can find out yourself by installing the software. Summary: if you only use outlook for email, and not for personal organisation, switch to Thunderbird.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted October 3, 2004 Author Posted October 3, 2004 Fine with me... now I need to see if my stupid firewall will let it through and what everyone else here will say. Anyone know why Outlook gives me a "C++ Runtime error: the program asked to terminate in an unusual way" or something like that the first time I try to run it every day? (in case I have to live with it)
5614 Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 looking in google, cap'ns problem may seem to be something to do with norton. source: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=Outlook+C%2B%2B+Runtime+error%3A+the+program+asked+to+terminate+in+an+unusual+way top two links when a problem such as that occurs, the best bet is to re-install the program and give it all the access rights it wants.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted October 3, 2004 Author Posted October 3, 2004 So it IS norton... Now I really want to switch to Thunderbird...
5614 Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 funny though, i have norton and outlook and neither ever cause a problem with each other.... must be some other contributing factors as well, dunno what though.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted October 3, 2004 Author Posted October 3, 2004 It's norton antispam + several accounts = runtime error. Read the articles that you post the links to.
5614 Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 i didnt fully read the links, though have now. all the same, i do have several accounts [norton + outlook + on the actual computer] and do have norton anti-spam... one sec...... is norton anti-spam the same thing as spam-alert [in norton internet security professional 2003]?
Sayonara Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 I would just like to make the observation that in many of these "I am having problems" threads, Norton is a common factor. Makes you think.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted October 3, 2004 Author Posted October 3, 2004 McAffee stunk just as much. But it's not my decision to have Norton, so I really can't change it. Unless some big problem comes up, it stays. Outlook is not going to stay if I get my way.
5614 Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 a friend says that Eudora is very good, i have never used it myself, but if you were interested in a new email service, it is meant to be quite good. http://www.eudora.com/ is the site is norton anti-spam the same thing as spam-alert [in norton internet security professional 2003]?
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted October 3, 2004 Author Posted October 3, 2004 You have to pay to get the spam filter on Eudora. Thunderbird is totally free. I have norton 04, so I have no clue.
bloodhound Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 i personally never used Outlook, but i never had anyproblems with outlook express + norton ( that was ages ago).
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted October 3, 2004 Author Posted October 3, 2004 I've switched! Yay! Except now Norton Anti-Spam (which I don't need anymore) keeps flagging emails as spam that aren't spam and I can't configure it for Thunderbird. At least it doesn't move them to another folder... so it's really just a matter of looks, seeing the [Norton AntiSpam] thing in front of the title all the time.
5614 Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 cant you just disable anti-spam or something? i really never get it, unless it is a very frequent and bad problem, there is no real NEED for it and it cuases you all of these problems, just disable it.
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